[Serious Discussion] Religion

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Just so you know, they aren't accused of abusing little boys, they're accused of raping or molesting them...that's a HUGE difference.

Uhm...rape and molesting IS abusing the child. It's going against the child's will (or using their innocence) and causes harm. It may not be physical (violent), but it's still a form of sexual abuse.

Plus it falls under child abuse, so it is abuse, meaning those that performed those acts did infact abuse children.

Wikipedia says "Sexual abuse, also referred to as molestation, is the forcing of undesired sexual behaviour by one person upon another."

What does the Quran say on the subject? On how to treat women. Are they lower etc? Because you say all the stuff we say is from the media but close to where I live there's a lot of Islamic families. I've seen it numerous times that the sons/fathers constantly curse at the women in the family and do nothing but put them down.

I don't know exactly what the Quran says on how women are to be treated, however how they actually are treated isn't all just took out of context by the media. In my college there's this woman (not in my class) who is Muslim. She does not have to cover her face though.

In her home, her father's the boss, and other males in the family. Her father and brother (or brothers) literally ring a bell and she and her mother has to attend to their needs (cleaning, finding something, cooking). She's fortunate in that she's allowed an education and a chance to better her life, and from what I've heard her father is in some way caring, but still treats the females as lesser humans (though I don't think he uses violence, as there are laws to prevent that).

Regardless of what the media tells us, Muslim women do get oppressed, whether it's as bad as the media portrays I don't know, I've never been to the middle east and I've never been to many (or any) Muslim households. I'm sure they are not allowed to do that to women according to Islamic rules, but it happens.

We should just stop believing, cause it's all imagination.

That's all you ever say, can't you come up with better arguments? Of course it's imagination, if we know something existed it would no longer be believing, but knowing. That doesn't mean people should just stop believing, they're allowed to believe what they want and shouldn't be looked down on because you think different.

And it's not all imagination in the way you seem to look at it, as I have said many times (and you seem to ignore), people have their own reasons for believing, some do it through some sort of reasoning / theory, some have experiences that make them believe and some simply find comfort in believing a higher power is looking over them.