[Serious Discussion] Religion

[Bloodst3r]

Whilst I respect your view and the way you live your life, you gotta admit that a lot of countries already go "totally chaotic" even with Islam.

Egypt for example. It's already chaotic, isn't it?! It could've even went farther, the only excuse keeping people away from more destruction is actually their religion.

Bloodster, you said yourself that you're not that religious then according to Islam you have no right to disagree with an official fatwa unless you're given permission by the authorities (In other words, have deep knowledge in religion). I was religious so I pretty much know that. Mohammad killed over 11 apostates in his time (if I remember correctly).
And a few other returned to Islam so they won't be killed, but left it right when mohamad died but were killed by the caliph.

I didn't just take that fatwa from the internet, I took it from a site that 50% of Muslims resort to. You can search as much as you want either from the internet or books or ask any of your sheikhs, I doubt that you'll find any reliable Islamic source that says otherwise. We've even been taught this at school.

I have deep knowledge of the religion, I just don't practice the religion itself, such as praying, reading Quraan etc. And anyone can disagree!

Perhaps Mohammed killed apostates, but as you should know, it's nothing compared to what happened to him, or Islam at that time. Also, as you join Islam, it's your own responsibility to agree on what's told to you.

Penalty of apostacy is not something to interpret or philosophise about, it's a proven part of the religion, and if you deny it or say otherwise, then you are to be considered an apostate yourself or a 'kafir'. It's one of the five main penalties in Islam (and all are savage and brutal unfortunately).

Oh, and you don't need to believe in anything to have a proper life, you can take my word on that.

Sorry, I've misunderstood the meaning of the word itself in the first place. Also as I mentioned above, it's your own responsibility to agree to what's told to you once you join. Some replies I expect: "I'm born a Muslim, I don't get the chance to agree or disagree upon the rules." I believe those who are born Muslims and want to be Atheists, or whatever, can abandon the religion with no penalty.

I need to! For a long time that belief actually kept me away from a LOT of bad things that I could've done, which of course would've had caused bad consequences to my health, or life.

Also, Bloodster, you said you don't pray, then you're not a Muslim why do you fool yourself just deny it all at once...

According to Islam one who doesn't pray is an infidel, Islam is calling you an infidel but you're denying it and calling yourself a Muslim. No need for that bro just leave it. Religion is not something that you can only take some parts of and leave the other parts. Since it's from God then you have to take it all word by word, if 1 thing is wrong or doesn't make sense for you then you leave it all at once.

I don't pray, yet I'm a Muslim. Only if you don't pray three constant weeks at the mosque you're an infidel, I only attend the Friday's prayer.

At this age, you can take some parts and leave some parts actually. I guess you know why, because of what Mohammed said, that the farther the age, the less religion is practiced by its own people which is totally normal.

Also, لكم دىنكم و لىا دىنى, is a phrase that I always like and stick to: You have your religion, I have my religion.

And eventually nothing in the entire universe is accepted by all people. Everything must have advocates and adversaries.