06-11-2011, 11:22 AM
(06-10-2011, 07:16 PM)STyL4 link Wrote: Maka u still here? this discussion does not involve u because u obviously dont know whats going on, face it(dont say u do otherwise ur agument'd be better)
0target0, i guess i reached the limit of ur "patience", ggu even reported meĀ for that
"Therefore they are not real and therefore your god is not real."
u're doing his quantum all backwards if u think there is no real wave-like nature before collapse occurs: Dear Positivists: Who's The Quantum Mystic Now?
If there is no real probability wave then we wouldn't be seeing an interference pattern in the double-slit experiment. Also the ensemble interpretation has long been debunked.
This is from Hameroff's site directly: (Hameroff is the guy who teamed up with Penrose on Orch-OR)
Problematic Feature of Consciousness:
"Essential nature of human experience"
Possible Quantum Solutions:
"1) Wave function self collapse (Orch OR) from incompatible superposition of separated space-times;
2) Pre-consciousconscious transition;
3) Effectively instantaneous "now"(Orch OR) collapse."
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http://www.quantumconsciousness.org/penr...rchor.html"
nuff said 0target0, yet another argument of urs "cuz i say so" has been proven a fail. deny more u want, u've officialy lost this debate, now go state ur own opinion because u simply can't stop, but the fact is that u're wrong. THESE UP THERE ARE FACTS. if u deny them, u deny science therefore u can't say NOTHING about Religion, NOTHING about this debate itself.
Johananratz truly is a scientists, not to mention his public debates... he's master at this, engineers cant stop him.
ORCH OR wins. facts are provided here, answer with a proper fact or u're considered as a bad debater or ur opinion can't be counted as a FACT.
(dont say u do otherwise ur agument'd be better)![[Image: tourney-25.png]](http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm153/Mark_Vido/tourney-25.png)