[Serious Discussion] Religion

[STyL4]

oh man what an idiot. u still don't get it. Yes brown is a property of hair, but "self-collapse" is not a "property" of consciousness self-collapse IS consciousness.

u say that a self-collapsing wavefunction in his oscilloscope is not a mind. First of all I'd like to know how u got a self-collapsing wave-function in ur oscilloscope as you need special conditions to get Orch-OR. Secondly, how do u know that it doesn't.


Since collapse is ontologically identical with protophenomenal observation (meaning the same thing that occurs in both mental observation and observation by non-mental equipment), how can self-collapse not equal self-observation? Since self-observation is equal to consciousness how is self-collapse ontologically different in any way shape or form from self-observation?


thanks to Johananratz for answer, master of the theory. he's not just some engineer

ok u dont fail .. not