[Serious Discussion] Religion

[0Target0]

i give u PREDICTIONS, u wanted PREDICTIONS and here are historical PREDICTIONS that happent.

Those are not predictions. Look the proof has been provided by science, after (AS IN NOT PREDICTING) the proof has been provided, you look back in the bible and give an interpretation according to the scientific proof.

Predicting is, taking a verse from the bible, saying what will happen about waves technologies universe...etc not AFTER the proof has been provided and thats an important difference.

As in I can write a cryptic story now, in broad terms, read it in 50 years from now and then re-apply it to the world image that we have in 2061 and then say...see i was right.

"I watched that video and it's a complete joke when it comes to proving God." - lmao McGlee, the famous Theist debater aproved that video as a solid proof, but he said he's still waiting for more details, now "SMARTASSES" like u and 0Target0 , will reject it? nice though, but u're way too "dumb" to reject it.

Cool, two wrong debating techniques in one answer:

1. Ad verecundiam: using the supposed authority of an external person or instance as an argument for the correctness of an assumption. The thing is that your 'person' is a theist and therefore very biased and not an authority in the subject. Thing is, that for both sides, this person needs to be an authority. Your problem is that he is seen only to YOU as an authority, thus your argument is invalid.

2. Ad hominem: personal attack to create doubt about the credibility of the argumenter, this is playing on the person and not on the argument.


And I perfectly rejected it.


The wave function of the universe is self collapsing. (hawking did not say that btw, he just discussed the idea 'the wave function of the universe' separately from the idea of a collapsing universe, it is just a theory, because everything in this world can be reduced to PHYSICAL waves, not probability wave functions which is completely different) Nevertheless, this theory is just an assumption; Please read Brian Greene's books

self collapsing wave functions are minds. Coolio, self collapsing wave functions are not physical, they just tell something about probability, so it's more like a descriptive mathematical tool, so claiming that a mathematical probability function is a mind...hmmm read orch or again please. A mind can be interpreted to where self collapsing wave functions apply, self collapsing wave functions as a property of the mind

Therefore the wave function of the universe is a mind. 

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Technique, property of X is A, Property of Z is A, THUS Z=X;

In the same way you can say that, an apple is round and so is a ball, therefore an apple is a ball.

So there goes your theory.
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