04-10-2011, 12:28 PM
@Maka 0Target0
talking about proofs? what accurate proofs u have? NONE, well pardon me but i have one:
Quantum God Episode Two: Properties of the Universal Orch-OR
home-made video? wouldnt say so, by professor with 155 IQ or more. that guy is a genious.
"2) God has no emotions as he is not a living creature, thus he can not be affected by any of our actions. " - profos u didnt read my post well. u read just "they might be affected" part, told u to read the last part. twelve years old indeed.
3) Feelings have always lead to biased decisions, thus that would make God imperfect. -
"We humans experience emotions as a result of new knowledge. A man who had formerly been ignorant of his wife's infidelity will experience the emotions of anger and sadness only after he has learned what had previously been hidden.
In contrast, the omniscient god is ignorant of nothing. Nothing is hidden from him, nothing new may be revealed to him, so there is no gained knowledge to which he may emotively react.
Furthermore, humans experience anger and frustration when something is wrong which we cannot fix. The perfect, omnipotent God, however, can fix anything. Humans experience longing for things we lack. The perfect God lacks nothing."
5) Everything you stated can be possibly made up by anyone on our planet who has ever lived. Thus, this entire story may as well be a bad film, which it could very well even be. - its stated in the Bible, now say its made up , sure but i suggest u to read the previous FACTS about Bible i wrote, 0target0 says its interpretation, interpretation out of what? Luck? 1000 lucky guesses? or out of things they see? obviously they couldnt see none of these, provided facts.
6) You state humans have a perfection. There is no perfect human, so how can God have infinite perfection? This also has a direct link to point three, as having feelings makes you imperfect. How on earth can you have perfect love and perfect hate? Emotions are never perfect. - human's goal is to be perfect, the perfection can be reached at the end of our lives only by providing what it was meant to use to try to reach that goal. (prefect emotions - talking about God then, yet again u did not listen)
7) read it AGAIN. it obviously isnt just any jealousy, and it obviously is not normal jealousy that WE HUMANS know
How do you explain your omnipotent God being able to fix anything we cannot fix? Is he planning on fixing the plate tectonics too whereof earthquakes occur? - dont get the point of question here, but if ure asking how can he fix anything we cant fix is simple.. because he's GOD -.- and if that isnt a good answer for u, then u dont know anything about religion either and this debate is no good for u.
9) And to complete this post, why did your God even create the planets this way, consisting of plates and layers? If he's so 'perfect', then why did he not create a perfect planet? - i suggest u to read astronomogy, who says they dont fit this universe just great? they're attached together, Earth is at PERFECT position and we got a chance to explore more, even if we dont know that much . what do u mean by perfect planets? something might not look perfect to us, but if we make it perfect(at our conditions) the rest of the goodness would just dissapear if u know what i mean.
"...and you, the believers, will never be able to provide anyone of real decent proof. " o'really, what proofs do u provide? there is no proof that proofs that atheism is accurate and correct, but ORCH_OR is more than accurate, 5 pages of that, still nothing about ORCH OR.
"Everything on this planet has an explanation to it. It's just a matter of really, long, unknown time before mankind will know the entire truth about this planet. Look at it from the bright side though, it will probably never be known by anyone anyway." - it has, but who says explanation can fit ur way of thinking?
talking about proofs? what accurate proofs u have? NONE, well pardon me but i have one:
Quantum God Episode Two: Properties of the Universal Orch-OR
home-made video? wouldnt say so, by professor with 155 IQ or more. that guy is a genious.
"2) God has no emotions as he is not a living creature, thus he can not be affected by any of our actions. " - profos u didnt read my post well. u read just "they might be affected" part, told u to read the last part. twelve years old indeed.
3) Feelings have always lead to biased decisions, thus that would make God imperfect. -
"We humans experience emotions as a result of new knowledge. A man who had formerly been ignorant of his wife's infidelity will experience the emotions of anger and sadness only after he has learned what had previously been hidden.
In contrast, the omniscient god is ignorant of nothing. Nothing is hidden from him, nothing new may be revealed to him, so there is no gained knowledge to which he may emotively react.
Furthermore, humans experience anger and frustration when something is wrong which we cannot fix. The perfect, omnipotent God, however, can fix anything. Humans experience longing for things we lack. The perfect God lacks nothing."
5) Everything you stated can be possibly made up by anyone on our planet who has ever lived. Thus, this entire story may as well be a bad film, which it could very well even be. - its stated in the Bible, now say its made up , sure but i suggest u to read the previous FACTS about Bible i wrote, 0target0 says its interpretation, interpretation out of what? Luck? 1000 lucky guesses? or out of things they see? obviously they couldnt see none of these, provided facts.
6) You state humans have a perfection. There is no perfect human, so how can God have infinite perfection? This also has a direct link to point three, as having feelings makes you imperfect. How on earth can you have perfect love and perfect hate? Emotions are never perfect. - human's goal is to be perfect, the perfection can be reached at the end of our lives only by providing what it was meant to use to try to reach that goal. (prefect emotions - talking about God then, yet again u did not listen)
7) read it AGAIN. it obviously isnt just any jealousy, and it obviously is not normal jealousy that WE HUMANS know
How do you explain your omnipotent God being able to fix anything we cannot fix? Is he planning on fixing the plate tectonics too whereof earthquakes occur? - dont get the point of question here, but if ure asking how can he fix anything we cant fix is simple.. because he's GOD -.- and if that isnt a good answer for u, then u dont know anything about religion either and this debate is no good for u.9) And to complete this post, why did your God even create the planets this way, consisting of plates and layers? If he's so 'perfect', then why did he not create a perfect planet? - i suggest u to read astronomogy, who says they dont fit this universe just great? they're attached together, Earth is at PERFECT position and we got a chance to explore more, even if we dont know that much . what do u mean by perfect planets? something might not look perfect to us, but if we make it perfect(at our conditions) the rest of the goodness would just dissapear if u know what i mean.
"...and you, the believers, will never be able to provide anyone of real decent proof. " o'really, what proofs do u provide? there is no proof that proofs that atheism is accurate and correct, but ORCH_OR is more than accurate, 5 pages of that, still nothing about ORCH OR.
"Everything on this planet has an explanation to it. It's just a matter of really, long, unknown time before mankind will know the entire truth about this planet. Look at it from the bright side though, it will probably never be known by anyone anyway." - it has, but who says explanation can fit ur way of thinking?
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