04-09-2011, 03:02 PM
"all humans are loved seven times more than their own mothers by Allah. all of the humanity is loved seven times more than ones own mother. " - those are facts in ur religion.
" Yea I do, it's Islam, if you think that the bible predicted tons of things, you should Check Quran, it predicted much more accurately." - i wouldn say much more accurately because Bible's predictions were accurate enough and they COULD NOT be tested. so u cant really deny the Bible's power and compare it.
"first of all, you didn't give God anything, God doesn't need you.
and I already said... blasphemy is the biggest sin, the unforgivable sin.
also, you don't have any proof that God has a son... just a book that hundreds of people edited and said that God wrote it." - u give him loyality, he created u obviously because he wants u to respect him(if he doesnt need u, then he hadn't have created u), show him loyality and obviously u do. and proving the power is proving the basics. God loves too and Jesus loves us too.
"most... that doesn't make it from God, a single word can lead to a 180ْ change in the meaning." - u could say the same for Quran, but they do know which parts are edited(well IF they argue, they argue about things that should not change ur view of God and Jesus, mostly it was edited by Pope himself - I think)., Jesus wasn't as i told u the facts about his story and journey. still makes him have the power. same with Moses.
"it's good that you do that, but what if God doesn't want you to do that? what if he wants you to do it 5 times a day?
you have to do it the way that God wants, not the way Mark or Matt wants." - IF, IF, IF - thats why we try as humans.
"look, I love Jesus more than you do, you can even test me for that, but he IS NOT the son of God, he is just a human that God created without a father so people would believe that he is a Prophet at his time.
and no you can't think with your head when it comes to serving God, because anybody can write a bunch of books, say that he is a God after performing some majic, or say that you can worship God by killing your self.
and if you don't deny my religion... then why you're not a Muslim? my religion says that you need to be a Muslim." - well, its good to see that u dont reject Jesus, as he wont reject u too if u keep the love. and u have to think with ur head too, because as mentioned : "God helps those, that help themselves". look at the influence, people were not that stupid. and even if they were, then there's the question about the Bible. how smart he had to be to know about the planets, creations etc.
i find ur relligion interesting, and i wont deny i t. there is probably truth in it too but i dont know much about it anyways, but u can agree with me: if there was no Christianity there would be no Muslims and if there was no Muslims there wouldnt be no Christianity. they are connected. and if u deny that as Muslim, u arent real Muslim.
and i'll be honest with u, i almost had the chance to become born-again Christian. there was this priest, who really know WHAT IS religion, and i wanted him to make me official Christian, waited 2 years for that, then they replaced him because he was so good and they(Church management) had some problems with something at another place... Priest did not want to be replaced, but they still did it. after that, it was too stressful for him and he needed to take a rest immediately. just makes u think what is Religion and what is Management.
"A lot of people right? All of them you claim predicted the world image as we know it today? So how come the monks and priests who dedicated their life to study the bible, condemned and expelled scientists who altered their world image? Keppler, Galileo " - going off theme yet again, because my arguments are too powerful but let it be. the parts that were edited is KNOWN that they were by the High Church and High Priests, the high management, but they did want the knowledge for themselves and same with the powers. Gallileo and other christian and non christian scientists would share this knowledge along the humans. that means the POWER would basically come to them and they could not be abused by them and they would be almost equal, this is what Bible wants, even if they're real christians and believe in real Religion. its not the Religion, it was the management. obviously there were smart Christians, who protested about their kind of sharing Religion because this is not what the Bible says/said. i typed this fast, so if u understan anything wrong i will re-reply and will tell u what i realy meant because im tired zZZzZZ.
was this happening in old Christianity? no. so as i stated in my first post again, many people do not like Christianity because of the middle age events, not the old Christianity events.
and i put my self in Religion by my self, i know my reasons to believe in Christianity, because usually people are Christians because of their families and the traditions, but that does not make them real Christians.
and hey twisted, if u want to talk we can do it on PMs, since i could get to know more about ur religion.
if u deny God, ORCH-OR.
" Yea I do, it's Islam, if you think that the bible predicted tons of things, you should Check Quran, it predicted much more accurately." - i wouldn say much more accurately because Bible's predictions were accurate enough and they COULD NOT be tested. so u cant really deny the Bible's power and compare it.
"first of all, you didn't give God anything, God doesn't need you.
and I already said... blasphemy is the biggest sin, the unforgivable sin.
also, you don't have any proof that God has a son... just a book that hundreds of people edited and said that God wrote it." - u give him loyality, he created u obviously because he wants u to respect him(if he doesnt need u, then he hadn't have created u), show him loyality and obviously u do. and proving the power is proving the basics. God loves too and Jesus loves us too.
"most... that doesn't make it from God, a single word can lead to a 180ْ change in the meaning." - u could say the same for Quran, but they do know which parts are edited(well IF they argue, they argue about things that should not change ur view of God and Jesus, mostly it was edited by Pope himself - I think)., Jesus wasn't as i told u the facts about his story and journey. still makes him have the power. same with Moses.
"it's good that you do that, but what if God doesn't want you to do that? what if he wants you to do it 5 times a day?
you have to do it the way that God wants, not the way Mark or Matt wants." - IF, IF, IF - thats why we try as humans.
"look, I love Jesus more than you do, you can even test me for that, but he IS NOT the son of God, he is just a human that God created without a father so people would believe that he is a Prophet at his time.
and no you can't think with your head when it comes to serving God, because anybody can write a bunch of books, say that he is a God after performing some majic, or say that you can worship God by killing your self.
and if you don't deny my religion... then why you're not a Muslim? my religion says that you need to be a Muslim." - well, its good to see that u dont reject Jesus, as he wont reject u too if u keep the love. and u have to think with ur head too, because as mentioned : "God helps those, that help themselves". look at the influence, people were not that stupid. and even if they were, then there's the question about the Bible. how smart he had to be to know about the planets, creations etc.
i find ur relligion interesting, and i wont deny i t. there is probably truth in it too but i dont know much about it anyways, but u can agree with me: if there was no Christianity there would be no Muslims and if there was no Muslims there wouldnt be no Christianity. they are connected. and if u deny that as Muslim, u arent real Muslim.
and i'll be honest with u, i almost had the chance to become born-again Christian. there was this priest, who really know WHAT IS religion, and i wanted him to make me official Christian, waited 2 years for that, then they replaced him because he was so good and they(Church management) had some problems with something at another place... Priest did not want to be replaced, but they still did it. after that, it was too stressful for him and he needed to take a rest immediately. just makes u think what is Religion and what is Management.
"A lot of people right? All of them you claim predicted the world image as we know it today? So how come the monks and priests who dedicated their life to study the bible, condemned and expelled scientists who altered their world image? Keppler, Galileo " - going off theme yet again, because my arguments are too powerful but let it be. the parts that were edited is KNOWN that they were by the High Church and High Priests, the high management, but they did want the knowledge for themselves and same with the powers. Gallileo and other christian and non christian scientists would share this knowledge along the humans. that means the POWER would basically come to them and they could not be abused by them and they would be almost equal, this is what Bible wants, even if they're real christians and believe in real Religion. its not the Religion, it was the management. obviously there were smart Christians, who protested about their kind of sharing Religion because this is not what the Bible says/said. i typed this fast, so if u understan anything wrong i will re-reply and will tell u what i realy meant because im tired zZZzZZ.
was this happening in old Christianity? no. so as i stated in my first post again, many people do not like Christianity because of the middle age events, not the old Christianity events.
and i put my self in Religion by my self, i know my reasons to believe in Christianity, because usually people are Christians because of their families and the traditions, but that does not make them real Christians.
and hey twisted, if u want to talk we can do it on PMs, since i could get to know more about ur religion.
if u deny God, ORCH-OR.
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