[Suggestion] Auto Gang Kick

[Munch]

I love Full Metal Jacket!! But I doubt the person causing his whole clan a mute will shoot a shotgun in his mouth in the bathroom...like you said!

[Maddolis]

I might think twice about my decision if I could be sure that the admins would treat all clans equally, and not have an itchier finger to hit "/mute" against, say, [W] or [HC4L].

[tomozj]

Administrators who wouldn't treat all gangs equally would have to face Dennis - I hope that your image of 'unfair admins' using this feature is clouding your opinion.

The idea would be for administrators to punish single gang members, not to punish entire gangs. The rest of the gang would suffer due to one member's actions, not because an administrator wants them all muted. A system of fair administrating is required here, so take that for granted.

[Darius]

tomozj you seem to have some sort of a personal grudge against gangs .

[tomozj]

tomozj you seem to have some sort of a personal grudge against gangs .

On what do you base that? I'm simply wanting to clamp down on flaming.. and gangs are the #1 culprits of flaming.

Stop coming here with opinions without backing them up, they're useless - you're starting to be annoying. I have nothing against well behaved gangs, but we don't see them often, do we?

[HaZe]

tomozj isn't against gangs... he has quite a gang past you know. B&A and i believe CT before that.

[Maddolis]

Administrators who wouldn't treat all gangs equally would have to face Dennis - I hope that your image of 'unfair admins' using this feature is clouding your opinion.

It is more than an image, it is a reality. It has been occuring for months, so obviously the administrators will have to "face" somebody else.

tomozj isn't against gangs... he has quite a gang past you know. B&A and i believe CT before that.

Some people quit gangs and become crew, and all of a sudden think they're so much better than gangmembers, for whatever reason.
Just, some people.

On what do you base that? I'm simply wanting to clamp down on flaming.. and gangs are the #1 culprits of flaming.

And crewmembers are the #1 culprits of admin abuse

It seems that if admins see people flame "flamers," or people who flame back, they don't mute them.
But once it happens to a random or a "non-flamer," they're suddenly muted.

Admins would have to mute all gangs equally, and mute based on the SAME set of words/severity of flame... I really don't see it happening.
And yes, you are punishing everyone in the gang, not just the one person.

[tomozj]

It is more than an image, it is a reality. It has been occuring for months, so obviously the administrators will have to "face" somebody else.

Well if you feel that way, then we can ensure that it doesn't happen.

Some people quit gangs and become crew, and all of a sudden think they're so much better than gangmembers, for whatever reason.
Just, some people.
And crewmembers are the #1 culprits of admin abuse

Well, I rejoined B&A later on, but that's irrelevant - I remain respectful to any gang. However, I think I'm better than those who lack moral values, quite rightly. You shouldn't be referring to admin abuse as if you know what it is - that term is incorrect, as administrators don't 'admin abuse' as said many times by the Management. If an administrator does something wrong then internally that can be discussed or whatever. Even if we pretend that crew members admin abuse - they're the only ones that could!

It seems that if admins see people flame "flamers," or people who flame back, they don't mute them.
But once it happens to a random or a "non-flamer," they're suddenly muted.

If two people are involved in a feud together then they should both be muted. I would always mute them, however I'm unable to confirm what you've seen as wrong as.. I didn't see it.

Admins would have to mute all gangs equally, and mute based on the SAME set of words/severity of flame... I really don't see it happening.
And yes, you are punishing everyone in the gang, not just the one person.

Of course this should happen - administrators would have a set of guidelines to follow.

[Maddolis]

So long as every flamer gets treated equally (which I still highly doubt will happen), I'm fine with this.

But as I see no way of this happening, I'm voting against it.

[tomozj]

So you're voting against a feature you're fine with because of how administrators treat people? ("Unfairly" in your eyes)

Consider that issue addressed, as this feature would essentially ignore the gangs from the point of view of administrators, but would simply apply the punishment to the rest of the gang members automatically. Administrators should be treating everyone equally anyway, so they needn't worry if they're muting a whole gang or an individual.