[Serious Discussion] Religion

[STyL4]

TwistedDemon you make no sense at all, Pope believed in God and served him, he didn't reject him and was thankful for his creation,

"believe in God, do good and don't do sins as hard as you can = go to heaven"  - he did believe in God, and God is Allah in ur Religion so he didn't deny him. you're just saying who should go to hell and who doesn't.. there are people killing thousands of people, some of people did not even get the chance to find out more about religion, oh cool they will go to hell and the guy who believed in God will just serve his time for a while then go to heaven, that really make alot of sense!

Why does Allah create beings who would become non believers and goes to hell while knowing even before creating them that their fate would be as such if Allah the most kind the most merciful? obviously it isnt about faith only but how good u are to ur mankind also.

it even says in ur religion than all humans are loved seven time mores than Allah, why would he even create non believer? ask a Christian, its simply not because of Faith, because u can also be good to ur mankind and by that ure not an atheist, but u simply dont reject the God, u let them have their faith and at the same time, as u did not reject Jesus and God, either they wont. theres always a chance.

create Shaithan (Satan) while knowing even before he creating Shaithan that what Shaithan's gonna do and how would he end up since Allah is all knowing all powerful?

i believe in God and serve him, i do not reject him Allah (God in Arabic) but i also cannot reject Jesus. i feel like he's in my life.

i do not deny Allah at all because I believe in God, and in both of the religion's there's one and only God. if u serve God for his creation then obviously you BELIEVE IN God, do u have faith in him ? obviously u do. do u deny him and ure not grateful for his creation? ofcourse ure not, so i would not call it like child disowning parents. i dont think almighty God himself would make the difference over arabic word Allah and God.

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What if you kill someone after he killed some family member, do you still go to heaven then? Is there some kind op point system god is using? 

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ah, and lose your after life? which is very long, like, infinitive years.

I'm not going to believe in God just to make sure I go to the heaven after I die. This isn't a silly game.

[Maka]

I'm sorry but this is really starting to get laughable.

[Tuism]

@STyL4

First of all, there should be no such thing as: "I think God is and I thing God should"... that will lead the world to more evil, if you have a word from God saying that he is and what he should be, i'll believe you.

Why does Allah create beings who would become non believers and goes to hell while knowing even before creating them that their fate would be as such if Allah the most kind the most merciful? obviously it isnt about faith only but how good u are to ur mankind also.

you can't abject to what God wants, and I already said.. the biggest sin is to worship someone else than God, not killing, not raping, all that is forgivable, because this life is NOTHING compared to life on heaven (in Islam) .

and yes it's not about faith only, it's about good deeds too, you never know what your time and punishment in hell will be even if you commit only one sin in your entire life, it might be millions of earth years as I said earlier, but if you don't have faith, then your scale of goodness and badness is corrupted.

create Shaithan (Satan) while knowing even before he creating Shaithan that what Shaithan's gonna do and how would he end up since Allah is all knowing all powerful?

again, you can't abject on what God wants, but just for your information, Shaitan was a close being to God, he served him well, and obeyed him, but once God told him to prostate to Adam he refused and said that he is better than him.

and btw, Christians don't believe that God is all knowing and all powerful?

i do not deny Allah at all because I believe in God, and in both of the religion's there's one and only God. if u serve God for his creation then obviously you BELIEVE IN God, do u have faith in him ? obviously u do. do u deny him and ure not grateful for his creation? ofcourse ure not, so i would not call it like child disowning parents. i dont think almighty God himself would make the difference over arabic word Allah and God.

there's a difference between what Muslims believe and Christians believe, we believe that God is the one and the only, he have no sons, no wife, never was born and never gave birth, but Christians say that Jesus is the son of God, which was not written in the original bible, it was changed even if they didn't want to change it, since Christians didn't take the bible as a literal book, they took by the meanings and wrote the meaning down, isn't that correct? don't you abide by the 'spirit' of the words not the words themselves? tell me, I don't know exactly.

What if you kill someone after he killed some family member, do you still go to heaven then? Is there some kind op point system god is using?

Anyone who killed someone on intent and illegally should be killed, you can't kill the person by your self, otherwise you will be punished either in hell, the leader/president/government have to punish the one who killed the family member after confirming.

I'm not going to believe in God just to make sure I go to the heaven after I die. This isn't a silly game.

Quran and Hadith have millions of evidences(exaggeration), if you're seeking for the truth, you will eventually find it, but... suit your self.

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Quran and Hadith have millions of evidences(exaggeration), if you're seeking for the truth, you will eventually find it, but... suit your self.

I'm sorry, but he wont. Nor will me or anyone else who arent religious.
Most ppl who find these answers are raised to be religious from the time they were born.

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Quran and Hadith have millions of evidences(exaggeration), if you're seeking for the truth, you will eventually find it, but... suit your self.

Too bad all those millions aren't solid enough. I haven't heard that existence of the hell had been accepted as a fact.

[Tuism]

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I'm sorry, but he wont. Nor will me or anyone else who arent religious.
Most ppl who find these answers are raised to be religious from the time they were born.

k, don't come crying when you and all atheists roast in hell.

am not being hateful, just stating the truth.

[Dominator33]

k, don't come crying when you and all atheists roast in hell.

am not being hateful, just stating the truth.

lmao

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k, don't come crying when you and all atheists roast in hell.

am not being hateful, just stating the truth.

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I Almost Became a Christian Again Yesterday