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#41
Oh, first off, lol, you replied as soon as I clicked the "Post" button, and second, I had not thought about that, indeed that's a way for lame people to avoid death or at least being hit, since...
(07-04-2009, 01:33 PM)Hitman link Wrote: when you take a screenshot, you are unhittable and unvulnerable, and for your opponent it looks like ur warping.

It's a good factor to keep in mind, and imo should be fixed for the new SA:MP version, if it's even coming out
#42
I think people who are saying "People with bad PC's have an advantage" are pretty fucking dumb. Put yourself in this persons position, and see how hard it is to fight .. I mean me, I have an average PC, it's not really a gaming PC so at times I will lag and it's not easy to fight and kill someone with shitty lag fucking believe me. So at the end of the day if a person with no lag was fighting a person with lag (fps) either the person with no lag has a real advantage or the fight is even. Simple as that really. I understand sometimes there are the people who just have some serious issues with their PC and lag when jumping etc. and takes half an hour to drive down the strip, they are a problem, but sometimes they lag so much they desync themselves so they just can't shoot you _O-

What I really hate about SA:MP is the assholes who fight you and you beat them and they cry about lag (ping) .. or the assholes who you fight and they win, and they still cry about lag .. ping or FPS ... like who fucking gives a fuck? You won ... stfu and get on with it.

A ping kicker would fail at life, I think LVP has enough numbers in their crew to do the work a ping kicker would far easier. In my experience ping kickers are just another way of making a good server shitty. My ping is normally in the region of 120/180 but that's just normal, and normal day's are getting rarer on LVP. Now I find myself with 300 ping frequently after having 120 a second ago.
So let's say the ping kicker was 300, I get a spike in my net and I'm kicked, I'm 100% sure I'm not alone here, I see many many people with the same problem.

afaik people with really really bad lag (fps) are normally kicked within minutes of discovery. That's all that needs to be done, like TEF said just report them.

People with enough sense will do it themselves, when I am lagging I just /q because it's just fucking shit, I can't hit anything and there is no advantage to me, it's not enjoyable.
#43
(07-04-2009, 04:22 PM)Jerome® link Wrote: So at the end of the day if a person with no lag was fighting a person with lag (fps) either the person with no lag has a real advantage or the fight is even. Simple as that really.

Bullshit boy... And every post you do seems like you're on the verge of a break down... Seek help.

Try experimenting with it...

I had a friend who doesnt have a good pc, but doesnt lag much.

I asked him to run a few programs to add strain to his CPU. We did a few fights. In those fights he warped a little, but not much. This was in a lag free server. If it was lvp it would look normal, since the lag in there makes everyone warpy in certain areas.

Anyway, he had a little warp, his ping was stable. But he hardly took any damage. Before i got him to loads all the shit up, i could take down his health and armour pretty easy. While he had a load of stuff loaded, he was virtually unhitable. I often had to aim (inm lead aim distance about 120 ping) BEHIND him to effect him when he was running straight left to right.

I also asked him to try fps settings in addition to the programs running. He warped a little more, not much. But was 6-8 shotting, and again barely taking damage.

It was just sometihng i was curios about so i checked it out... So in that situation its a huge advantage.


Theres also the true warpers, the ones who warp, 6shot and still think they're good.. No names mentioned but a lot of them are either in or were in clans that they're not skilled enough to be in. Just because they have an extra few sawnoff shots to get a hit on their opponent, doesn't mean they've got good aim, or that they're good.

Personally i can go on YouTube, and download stuff. I'll warp a bit, but my ping stays stable most of the time. I never do this for fighting but i also tested it out.

The warp and lag of it made me 6-8 shot. Onmy screen it just seemed like my game was going a little slower, but not much.

So some laggers have a huge advantage.. Others dont.

What annoys me though is players who lag, they fight and are harder to hit since they're teleporting across the screen.
When you do hit them, they panic and run for a refil, then turn and spray 8 sawns at you while their lagger friend throws nades into the fight. And because the guy im fighting lags that bad, the nades barely effect him.

Also the ones who start up youtube before playing, and running laod sof other shit. Then they come in and think they're skilled at fighting. When really they're probably as bad as someone who has just discovered the game for the first time.

People mentioned ping... Nater and Maddolis i've fought a few times. Their ping is high yeah, but i dont see them warping. So the fight isn't actually unfair. The ping makes them harder to hit but often with a ping that high, when they turn their HB is slightly more open. So you can even shoot at their skin and doa lot of damage.

If the ping is stable, then there should be no problem, unless they're warping. Theres a shit load of warpers in lvp, they're fighting in there and are barely hitable, and also end up killing a lot of people.

Then they goto another server, where their warp isnt so bad, and they're a lot easier to hit. So its not just the players who are to blame, LVP lags a lot, its seriously bad. So bad infact its the ONLY server i have played in samp where i have to lower my settings to play. I end up leaving after a short time cos the lag fucks my eyes up.

Anyway, you'll notice, the only people really defending laggers and warpers, are the laggers and warpers themselves.

They claim its so hard, but when you fight them and they use sawnoff like its an uzi and spray loads at you, they claim to own you and be more skilled. And often when they're about to be killed, when they have refilled 3 times already, they use /world  to avoid dying..


By the way out of interest... What happened to the Regular's Server?

Could it be put back up...BUT!!! use the LVP 2.8 GM?

I'd prefer to play that, not earn property money and fight in there. Make a vote...
#44
(07-04-2009, 01:37 PM)Jhon link Wrote: Oh, first off, lol, you replied as soon as I clicked the "Post" button, and second, I had not thought about that, indeed that's a way for lame people to avoid death or at least being hit, since...
It's a good factor to keep in mind, and imo should be fixed for the new SA:MP version, if it's even coming out

Don't think it can be fixed without enabling damage to paused players, as it is an issue with the computer itself rather than the game.
#45
(07-11-2009, 10:41 AM)Maddolis link Wrote: Don't think it can be fixed without enabling damage to paused players, as it is an issue with the computer itself rather than the game.

Yeah, I didn't have that in mind when I replied, it was more like an opinion, so ignore that post :P

And I totally agree with SAFC's post.
#46
1. put some extra programs and virus scan on
2. go ingame
3. see nerds cry bout 12 shot  :>
#47
If you know the reason why someone is killing you so easily and it is definitely lag and thats all I would just say get over it and stop trying to fight them, lag has always been a big problem with SA-MP so its not easily approachable, those who know their good should'nt even be bother with people boasting about being the best when they lag 7 metres around whereever they are on their screen.

Although all this is personal preference, the one thing that I do agree with you is annoying is when you fight laggers and they refill after fighting for 12+ hours lol.
#48
Well before you fight check the following
Ping ( to see lag )
Health ( that they are even )
And have a good fight :D
#49
(07-11-2009, 08:11 PM)Rossco link Wrote: Well before you fight check the following
Ping ( to see lag )
Health ( that they are even )
and There skin encase it is a fast skin  8)

I agree that you should check their ping before a fight but that's shit useless if they have 128mb of RAM.
#50
(07-12-2009, 07:12 AM)Maddolis link Wrote: I agree that you should check their ping before a fight but that's shit useless if they have 128mb of RAM.

even XiZ has 256MB  8)