The [N]otoriouS Clan

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Now that's just stupid. Since 2005 I've been in a clan called The Fallen that started on this game called Deicide and they were the most successful on there, and legit. I'm still a part of them now, and I'm in eF on SA-MP. I don't want neither clan to close ''after 2 months'', why would I?

If you read what I wrote I said that when being in a 100% samp clan, it can be ok to be in other clans.

How's it dumb? If you're gonna be a loner on ALL other games because of ONE SA-MP clan, then for starters you shouldn't be in that clan because the leader is putting you through trouble just because they say you can't join them.

Either you're stupid or u dont read what I say. Do you see us being loners on ALL other games because we're in one clan only? No. We play all sorts of games together. If you think you just have to be in a clan to play games with people you kinda missed the point. I am not talking about a 100% samp-clan.

And if you let a clan leader rule you like that on a game that's effectively dead then you're an idiot. (Please don't come at me with the player count still being big excuse.)

If you decide to join a clan on a game that's dead then its your problem.
If you wanna join a clan it should be for a reason, not just being in a clan to be in a clan.

But if I was in SAE and I wanted to join a clan on something like GunZ then what's the problem with that? It's just someone having fun on a game with people he met on there and formed a clan for whatever reason (just for fun or to become a known clan on that game).

You obviously dont understand what a gamingclan is anyway. If you think meeting few ppl on a game and put a tag on, and call it a clan you kinda missed the point. If you're in a multi-gaming clan like SAE and you want to play with other people to own other clans, you put a gamingtag on. All of you with the same tag means you're on a team and u represent eachother. That's not the same as being in a real clan.

It's not just 2 (or more) clans. It's being in a clan on a completely different game that has no connection to another clan's game(s). Being in one clan on GunZ and one clan on SA-MP is harmless and neither clans should have a problem with that.

As I said 100 times before, if it's a 100% normal samp clan then there most likely wont be any problems because of conflicts between 2 clans, as u said, they have no connection to eachother.
Please understand the difference between a gamingclan and a pure sampclan.

In my opinion a clan shouldn't have any say or concern over their members' personal life and shouldn't take actions based on what they do outside of the clan's community or SA-MP community. They can require the members to have certain things installed and use them, and perhaps be active on them (like xFire or IRC), but shouldn't be bothered with what you get up to on another game (unless you cheat maybe).

Same as above.