09-12-2008, 02:22 AM
Well, when I mentioned "griefing" , I was referring to gang members possibly abusing it to punish their friends.
I think it's possible that instead of gang members helping shape eachother up, they'll just get mad at each other when one screws up. You claim they have a "bulldog mentality", and I think that would make them more likely to play the blame game or spark conflicts when one gets them all in trouble.
Another flaw with kicking everyone in the same gang automatically is kick reasons for anything other than bad behavior. If someone's idling, bugged, or whatever non-behavioral reason you can think of, the other gang members shouldn't be punished at all.
There is more potential for abuse than simply friendly teasing - a possibility for trolling. Say you want to raise hell, you ask for a gang to invite you, and as soon as they do, you do something to get all of them in trouble.
It's a good idea, but again, I think the risks and downsides outweigh the benefits. I think we should definitely have more gang-wide commands, and maybe enforce new policies which would hold gangs responsible for each other's negative actions.
To sum it up, I think an automatic gang kick/mute/ban/jail is simply unsafe and unnecessary for the server.
I think it's possible that instead of gang members helping shape eachother up, they'll just get mad at each other when one screws up. You claim they have a "bulldog mentality", and I think that would make them more likely to play the blame game or spark conflicts when one gets them all in trouble.
Another flaw with kicking everyone in the same gang automatically is kick reasons for anything other than bad behavior. If someone's idling, bugged, or whatever non-behavioral reason you can think of, the other gang members shouldn't be punished at all.
There is more potential for abuse than simply friendly teasing - a possibility for trolling. Say you want to raise hell, you ask for a gang to invite you, and as soon as they do, you do something to get all of them in trouble.
It's a good idea, but again, I think the risks and downsides outweigh the benefits. I think we should definitely have more gang-wide commands, and maybe enforce new policies which would hold gangs responsible for each other's negative actions.
To sum it up, I think an automatic gang kick/mute/ban/jail is simply unsafe and unnecessary for the server.