Banned - No Reload - C Bug + Sawnoff .

[Agent]

I was at the army so I couldnt replay for your post but here it goes -
You still dont get it do you ? , Im not searching to get unbanned before monady . Your just keep acting like a
bitch becouse you cant admint your mistake and its just not right .

So I'm gonna love the months after your unban, when I'll be watching you until you do it again.

You made me laugh here ^ - So sad that this is what makes you happy ..I mean - "watching" please do'
                                          anything , just dont watch me for months' . Your pathetic dont you got "more
                                          important things to do ? - Just saying .


Have a good day nielz .




Gaahl your still my 'secks' toy doll , right ? <3

[nielz]

I made NO mistakes, you're banned for bugabuse, which is a very good reason for a ban.

[Gaahl]

Gaahl your still my sadomasochist master with your 9 tail whip and pink hairy handcuffs, right ? <3

Fixed 

[Agent]

I made NO mistakes, you're banned for bugabuse, which is a very good reason for a ban.

I didnt say that its not a good reason for a ban , see what I mean ..You keep talking about other things but you still ignore the main issue.

I would like a managment member to say he's point of view about this (Without taking any sides) - Thx .

^

Gaahl you freak ! I didnt know that you like it wild & crazy

[nielz]

Unbanned.

Do not abuse bugs again.

[Agent]

I still want that a managment player will post his point of view , where are everyone ?

[jerico]

It's very clear.

You bug abused, so that's where you are banned for. Nielz is crew for not to long and he asked for advice on this matter to other crew to get the facts straight and to get the right guidelines to persue you.

You asked him a question where you still want an answer. I did read this topic several times. But i really don't get the question where you are talking about.

Even if he plays here for 3 years. A bug can be very close to a cheat. So he just asked you for an explanation, because it could be a cheat too. What i understand from the logs and this thread. You didn't came up with a clear explanation. Making Nielz in a position where he had to discuss it some further more with other crew.

But still, you are the one who bug abused and that's the reason why you was banned.

Please retype your question in your answer to this post. Maybe I or another crew member can answer it.

gr,


jerico

[Agent]

I did came up with good explenations , other wise I would be still banned for cheats . Please jerico read the
topic over again and you may see this part already , I wont going to explain this twice .
Didnt you check the logs ? There are examples on how to do it , so how did you miss this ?
He had to discuss it with other crew becouse lack of experience and knowledge .
But hey , I wont write again what I sayd in the first post's . Try reading it again mate . 


I just want a managment to say his point of view for this topic with taking no sides .-Thx .

[jerico]

Took you sometime to "slip" of this one smoothly ,

1.You banned me for "No-Reload" and you dont even got a clue what C-BUG even is  . Its sad to see your lack of
  experience and knowledge about this kind of things .


2.You was telling me multiple times that I will stay  pernament banned if
  I wont  prove you that this is a bug . So what else did
  you expect me to do ? - You need to thank me for teaching you how to do this so you will now, know not
  to do mistakes like this .


3. Why do you make it sound so bad ? "Explained to the entire server" ? - Come on you can do better than that ..All
  this time and this is the best you came up with ? There were 5 players in the server , two of them took your
  side , Weezy & BrainDeadGamer . So when I told them two , how to do this bug you quickly "announced" (after
  banning me) that its not to abuse ! - Then you kicked out Weezy -Im not here to talk about that kick but it
  wasnt a fair one at all - You know it .


4. Im finding it very sad that your here for how much now ? three years and you dont even know to separate
    between bugs & cheats or w/e .Im finding you reducing the reputation of the
    other LVP's admins & mods who are doing a great job and  if the managment will pick more players like you
    to be as crew I think its a waste of good efforts .


Just for example , lets take MacSto - the new mod (sorry for bringing you up here mate) - I bet he got a few
things that he doesnt know about LVP and SA-MP - I bet we all do . But as a moderator or admin you gotta know
the simple things that everyone can learn in about 1 month of playing , your here for 3 years and you didnt
make it , I think we can agree you failed . You just dont want to admint that you have mistaken becouse you will be embarrassed of what the other's will think about you as a moderator .

And not enough all of this , then you threatend me that this ban will be very long becouse you couldnt hear
the truth at IRC .Way to go , nielz .
I hope you didnt try this bug after I told you how to do it , becouse then .. you know you should ban yourself too!

Ive got more things to say , but for now I think this is enough shame for you in one post .

Then i think you were refering to above points?

Let me answer them, i don't atke any side here. Just my raw opinion and i think management will answer the same.

1.  You can't know every single bug and it is possible to not know if you have been a fair player  for years and if you are a player wich ain't searching for bugs wich he could abuse. I agree on the matter that a crew should know the bugs. But Nielz is still moderator and still in his learning curve. So now he knows the bug and won't forget it. Don't forget no reload is a cheat future too. When you perform bug abuse very well it's almost the same as a no reload cheat. Don't twist the story to Nielz, because you are the one performing a no reload bug or no reload cheat, we didn't made you to do it.

2.  He is probably very thankfull that you showed him how the bug worked. As long you didn't explain(wich you did) He could assume u were no reload cheating and thuz were perm banned. After all you are not perm banned are you? He still had to decide and see if you cheated or not.

3.  You know it's not allowed to bug abuse and we dislike the fact if you explain it in public, even if there are 5 players ingame. We have .echo too.

4.  Just like in point one. Nielz is moderator. Moderator is a function were you can afford mistakes or have to learn stuff. If you would be added to the crew and you have to take desicions about bans/kicks/mutes/bug abuses, i take a bet on it you can't tell me it was cheating or bug abusing.

And for your information. I didn't pick a side in this answer.

Gr,


jerico

[Agent]

I agree that you didnt pick a side but me and nielz aleady talked out all off what you writed down here exept one thing -

4.  Just like in point one. Nielz is moderator. Moderator is a function were you can afford mistakes or have to learn stuff.

Even if your managment you can afford mistakes , just learn to admit them thats all .He did some mistakes
and he would admint them so he just keep going with the "care" way to get out of it .

If you would be added to the crew and you have to take desicions about bans/kicks/mutes/bug abuses, i take a bet on it you can't tell me it was cheating or bug abusing.

I already bought this up how to see if its bug abusing or cheating , read the first page jerico .

2.  He is probably very thankfull that you showed him how the bug worked.

I sayd that too , "that he needs to thank me for showing him this bug" As you sayd "Moderator is a
function where you can afford mistakes or have to learn stuff"

3.  You know it's not allowed to bug abuse and we dislike the fact if you explain it in public, even if there are 5 players ingame. We have .echo too.

He could come to IRC instead of staying ingame . So nothing to point too here jerico .

1.  You can't know every single bug and it is possible to not know

I didnt say that its a most to know every single bug , there are bugs that are not familier to me either .


jerico - all what you sayd here have been already talked out . I dont know why you brought it up again ..
          Im asking for an managment player to point his point of veiw , I didnt ask your point of view jerico
          (no offence mate) . So please leave it alone untill a managment will respond here .