Science vs Mythology

[HaZe]

some people are hopelessly dumb, it's depressing.

I'm not shutting down myths because they're not proven by science, it's because THEY'RE MYTHS... MEANING STORIES.



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[Mike]

I really don't think scientist care enough, the only ones who want to look for it are busy for the rest of their lives figuring out the time space paradox.

What is there to prove about a story anyways? Who cares if its true or not, the bible was intended to be moralising, nowhere near a real story.

Hehe Lord Kelvin had similar thoughts at first, but it must be something right, fill a balloon up and define wind. Well he needed a few years to figure out what it was exactly but at least air gives us an indication, some proof to our eyes to know that it is there. That is as far as classic scientists will go.

But i get your point, at a certain scientific level philosophy comes in together with theories, the atomic models are completely based on probabilities trying to explain a certain chemical behaviour. As soon as the model seemed incapable of explaining new behaviour, we invented a new model, so all chemical behaviour could be explained with that model. Scientists were like, "see...now everything fits", everything we see can be explained with the same model.

It goes beyond that, now the new Einsteins are inventing theories to prove theories about things we can't even see or remotely understand (time space paradox), trying to answer questions like "what is time and why does it behave the way it does?" (Apparently time goes forward because our universe expands :s).

In the end it is very similar to myths or stories in which mankind tries to comprehend things that are very hard to understand. Uber classic "creation of the world" story.

But however, for dragons, its very simple.

[size=2]PICS OR IT DOESNT EXIST OR IT HAS NO RELEVANCE TO OUR LIVES AT ALL!

That is nowhere NEAR scientific proof, even i can write that on a website. Idiots.

Thanks for your attention,

Your Chemical Civil Engineer.[/size]

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You said everything I wanted to.

[Jerome]

Last 4 posts are nothing but faggotry and will be deleted. Ignorant fucks.

[HaZe]

Last 4 posts are nothing but faggotry and will be deleted. Ignorant fucks.

Jerome, why do you claim to be open minded when you post like that? Shutting out any opinions that are made to counter your post? That's not open minded AT ALL. You realize it's the opposite of "open-minded" when you refer to a post as "faggotry", not only that but to a gay person who posted (Mike). Really, really messed up.

I mean, it's really unintelligent for your only argument being "oh you should be open-minded", rather than accepting fact.

[Jerome]

I'm shutting out stupid, ignorant posts ... all I see are people denying the fact that .. and dismissing myths that are older than their whole family tree put together ... they are happy to dismiss this, not even give it a second though .. then start talking shit and posting shitty fucking dragon pictures?

And how is it ridiculous?! Explain to me how exactly, a thousand year old myth is ridiculous when there are Scientific references and alot of stuff pointing to the fact, that it's not a Myth.

No, you're right .. I'm not open minded to bullshit, if people want to just go ahead and talk without assessing the evidence that's fine by me, but don't do it in here. I bet you never even read that article Carcass posted, did you?

[Mike]

I believe the fundamental idea here is that in order to bring a concept to a group of people, you must convince them somehow. In our society convincing people requires reasonable proof with existential import; proof based on observation of the world. This is called evidence. All of the scientific theories have evidence to support them. But the idea of a theory, as Calimero mentioned, is a model that best fits gathered evidence, or behaviors. "Bests fits" means that it is not 100% correct, and thus is wrong.

So, I have a simple question: How can we have all of this evidence for scientific theories and have them still be wrong, yet people come about with very little or no evidence for mythology and claim it's truth?

[HaZe]

No, you're right .. I'm not open minded to bullshit, if people want to just go ahead and talk without assessing the evidence that's fine by me, but don't do it in here. I bet you never even read that article Carcass posted, did you?

The link Carcass posted has little to no credibility.

[Jerome]

I believe the fundamental idea here is that in order to bring a concept to a group of people, you must convince them somehow. In our society convincing people requires reasonable proof with existential import; proof based on observation of the world. This is called evidence. All of the scientific theories have evidence to support them. But the idea of a theory, as Calimero mentioned, is a model that best fits gathered evidence, or behaviors. "Bests fits" means that it is not 100% correct, and thus is wrong.

So, tell me: How can we have all of this evidence for scientific theories and have them still be wrong, yet people come about with no evidence for mythology and claim it's truth?

So what you're saying is -

Science is always right, whereas, Myths are never ever going to be right.

Not once have I said that Science can be denied. Science is fact, something proven. But how fucking hard can it be, to believe in something that you cannot see .. or have no evidence of it being "real" .. how hard can it be, to take a deeper look and not just look at the surface of things, take things for what they are and just move on, but delve deeper and use some fucking imagination or something. Christ, if everybody looked at the world half of you do it'd be one hell of a boring place, for me anyways.

The link Carcass posted has little to no credibility.

Ofc it doesn't ... just dismiss it. Forget it.

[Mike]

If my post was read thoroughly, one would see that I did not say that science is always right; I said that science is always wrong.

Science cannot prove anything to be correct. The only thing it can do is prove ideas to be wrong. I was comparing the fact that science is still wrong with all this evidence, so how can something with very little evidence (mythology) be anywhere near correct?

[Jerome]

Lol ... I'll reply when it isn't 1:50 am .. otherwise I'm just gonna post some irrelevant bs.