Mods / Admins

[g3344]

IMO Cyrix and Jerico are awesome people. And we seem to forget that part, indeed they are people. Not robots. Yeah, they sometimes make a bad decision, but I would like to see some of you do better.

And I used to enjoy watching and reading the 'Daily Moan' from you SAFC, and some times I stuck up for what you had to say, but it is getting so boring now. To the point noone cares any more.

I say pull yourself together and get over it. If you don't like it go away. I am sure most of us would wave goodbye to you quite happily.

[Matthias]

This thread is kinda useless. I suggest you open a thread in the CSI if you have a complaint. Make sure you have some proof and a well built complaint. Not something in the lines of 'jerico is shit, demote him'.

[Darius]

Two that come to mind for me who have no idea how to handle situations are jerico

whos jerico?

I along with a considerable large amount of other regular's are still playing the game,

yeah, thats why your own clan goes 'lol Ryan on LVP'

Oh, and for the record, I think this was hilarious:

yeah, I rofl'd at that too xD

[tomozj]

This thread is kinda useless. I suggest you open a thread in the CSI if you have a complaint. Make sure you have some proof and a well built complaint. Not something in the lines of 'jerico is shit, demote him'.

Indeed, I made my point pretty clear about that and it seems to have been understood.

Locked, this shouldn't have been posted in this section in the first place. Link to CSI board.

[Richard]

This post will probably repeat some stuff, but so be it.

The mods and admins are shit.

Personally i don't fully agree, i know there are some great mods and admins, fair and firm at the same time.

As said, make a complaint either in my PM inbox, my email inbox or if you it to be in public, CSI. Give us actual evidence, not just "he did this/that".

But they do have a point when they say "immature admins or mods"or "they don't have a clue what they're doing."

Again, if they are so immature(I suppose you mean multiple here, both mods and admins), make a complaint.

or "they don't have a clue what they're doing."

I very much doubt that, so show me something proving it.
Every mod and admin currently in the crew were temped a lot before becoming mod(except for Twilight, but he never had a complaint or so ).

As you said about Cyrix404, it was only once, probably a bad day. Sounds like it, because I never had a real complaint about him as I recall, one small thing I think.

Next is everyone’s favourite jerico...

I have yet to get a complaint about him, an actual one.

This guy is trigger happy when it comes to kicks and bans.. He has this arrogant attitude towards players because he has these extra commands, so basically if someone says something he doesn’t like, he bans or kicks...

Simply said, bullshit. I have never had anyone come to be that they were treated in a "negative" way by him. By negative I mean that he picks on them or so. So saying he kicks/bans everyone that he dislikes is simply incorrect. And as for him having an arrogant attitude, I never witnessed that myself(arguing he wouldn't do it around management isn't working, I've been undercover without crew knowing enough).

He’s threatened me for reporting guys with high pings. There were two guys 2v1 me both 800+ ping, I reported and he told me to stop wasting time with useless reports. I asked if he is dumb. He replied "excuse me". I said yea you're dumb, the LVP ping limit is 500 if people are fighting. He kicked me for the useless reports and for my attitude...

My attitude was provoked by an arrogant idiot who had no clue about the rules... Luckily TEF came in game, he warned me about calling jerico dumb, which was fair, since I did go on about it a bit much, and then he kicked the guys with the high pings.

If that indeed happened as you said, then he was wrong. But I suppose TEF did his part in there and told him about it if he didn't know.

Jerico has also banned me for a few silly reasons.. Most recent was when i was reporting a guy laming and abusing.
The player [niro] in game was pause abusing and also nading in interiors. So i reported it, no reply, so I reported again, no reply. In the end i reported it 10 times. Then I saw [niro] kicked reason "don’t do that". I thought yes ok finally. So my message to the admin who kicked was, about fuckin time, he’s been abusing constantly.

Next I was kicked for spamming admin chat.... I returned, jerico said don’t ever spam our chat again. I told him I wouldn’t have to if he wasn’t so useless with reports.

His reply, "i back your pardon?" so i asked, "you back it? maybe get back to your English studies". After which i was banned for "insulting crew"... I was only repeating what he had said.

He may have not done it in the time he was watching. I for example change between reports if I don't see anything for a bit, especially when being alone or the report isn't something big(like pause abusing).

"you back it" is of course insulting, you didn't say that because you didn't understand what he meant.

I honestly don't understand what positives jerico adds to LVP. He is one of the most useless people at being admin I’ve ever known. He has no clue how to make fair decisions, his understanding of rules is pathetic, and his attitude towards players is like that of an angry child, he comes across power hungry.

You only see the downside of things. Pulling in chevy(seeing he's been mentioned later on anyway), he did a lot of good as well whereas most people only saw the bad things.

If his decisions were really that bad, why didn't anyone report him for it? For setting awkward times for bans. Again, for the attitude, I haven't noticed that.
Power hungry? I'd include that in attitude, same answer.

I doubt it will but i do hope this would be taken seriously, since I’m sure I’m not the only one who has these opinions.

You know I take everything and everyone serious, or well, almost.

The reason i posted in this section is to allow players to have their say also. Because its 100% certain that this topic would be locked in CSI.

As you can see in this reply, CSI would be preferred. And why would it be locked at once? I always reply.

I have never talked with Jerico or Cyrix, my brother has spoken with cyrix though and he said he's a nice person. I find Cryrix quite 'odd' tbh, but he's nice. On the other hand the worst crewmember is obviously estroe.

candygirl link=topic=21942.msg260176#msg260176 date=1254145448]
To be honest peter your not much good either after the shit with chevy and the reports you had about him thats all i got to say 

It wasn't all Peter, not to mention both of you were being bitches to one another. But let's not go into chevy's case here, that's a closed book.

The old regulars have stopped playing so much because of the lag and the amount of abuse going on.

Again, please do report if you have been abused in any way.

I along with a considerable large amount of other regular's are still playing the game, if something bother's me I ignore it and move on.  Also any regular's worth still having here are relatively decent also and have the same type of attitude I have.

If you do think abuse is going on you need to start getting solid evidence, and not just making pointless threads like this about it.

That's my two cents.

You shouldn't ignore it imo. Although that of course depends on what it is.

There are way too many cheaters, and so many admins and mods, but they're never around when needed.

Most of the people who get in the crew are the guys who break that unwritten rule of minimodding..

Someone minimods, then is told not to. Then they're the first ones the management look to temp.

Go in undercover, and see how much flaming and abusing is going on in there. Then think back to the days when you used to run LVP. See how its changed so much. Even the wannabe mods are abusing when theres nobody online to do anything about it.

If players are gonna be allowed to abuse and flame with no action taken, then they're gonna keep playing...

Its become more about quantity than quality

Actually, the crew coverage is quite alright. Let's take the last 2 days for example:



Not too bad if you ask me.

As for minimodding, I can't deny that indeed did happen, but most, if not all of the crew is getting more and more pissed of with asskissers and/or minimodders.
And, as for temping, I think 80% of all temp given out isn't done by the management. Doesn't mean we disagree with their choices for tempmod though.

As I said, I go in undercover quite a bit but I barely notice the things you say. Sure there's flaming and laming more when there's no crew around, but that's not like it's something that only happened lately or so. It happens on any server and has always happened.

No one is being allowed to flame but you can't mute someone for saying something, say, 10 minutes ago.

We don't take quantity over quality, hence replies like this:

Same old story
But I don't see anyone who could be mod from those playingtimes.
We had a candidate who could be on in that time, but that was only in the vacation, school started again.

We may have someone else, but I'm not sure on the time.

Anyway, yes, we're aware of it, but so far we don't have a good solution to the problem.

As for temporary moderators(like you said, only on certain times), I'm not sure if it is possible, and even if so, I wouldn't know who to give it to.

If that would be bullshit, more people would be promoted.

Abusing powers is playing favorite giving certain ass kissers a rocket to blitz others, kicking or banning for stupid reasons.

You're not likely to speak against any crew anyway since you're up there asses tryin to be mod.

Trust me when I say there's more chance of me being sexually attracted to TEF than RyanKilla becoming mod(we'll make him an admin at once instead!).

As for jerico, I’ve had numerous experiences of his lack of competence in being a crew member. A recent ban appeal backs my claims up.

I've yet to see complaints from you. If you had that much bad experiences, why didn't we see any CSI's about him?

As for your appeal, I went back through 19 pages of appeals and found nothing.

Locked, this shouldn't have been posted in this section in the first place. Link to CSI board.

Asswipe, that's my line!

[Maka]

I'm not going to shit much around this thread as I don't have much time. However, after noticing it, I felt like I had to make a small reply.

Firstly, other servers say shit? So fucking what? Why on fuck's name should we (the crew) care what other servers' crewmembers say? Every server is different, and hell, I've been on a lot of servers. Guess what? I could say the same fucking thing so many people bullshit about around here. I'm not going to say which server this was on, and it was also a good year ago, but when I went on it, there were 3 cheaters in-game. Obvious cheaters, using no-reload and health cheats. I reported them, a good five times in a good ten minutes, and not ONE single admin/moderator of the two online seemed to be doing shit. I even recorded them at one point, but I don't have the footage anymore. So really, is this only LVP? Faaaaaaar effing from. This shit happens on any server, and for the record, I've been administrator of this server for over two years. I know VERY well how this crew works. You (the players) have NO idea at all how hard it can be to administrate a server. Ever had six people asking you questiosn at once? Every had three reports at the same time whilst you're the only administrator in-game? Ever had useless noobs who only care about deathmatching on this game shooting you every fucking second when you're actually administrating, and that they then go whining and crying about "abuse" when you teleport off, or use a more "agressive" method like killing the player or paralysing the player by command? Really. Unless you had temp administrator on a server with 125 people (That's right, temp admin. Temp moderator has way less chat and commands) you should not be talking. Now, about the "admins are never around when they're needed"; how the hell do you know? All you see is someone breaking the rules. You don't know shit about who is actually asking for help, or is getting helped, or when the crewmember is checking cheaters or reports. (oh that's right, we even go searching ourselves for cheaters)
I am tired of seeing all these complaints. If you can do everything so much better, then why don't you go administrate a server yourselves somewhere, WITH over 100 players on a daily basis? And if this server sucks so much ass (seeing all the reports, complaints, negativity), then why don't you go elsewhere?

I can even say that the part where "minimodders get admin" is total utter bullcrap too. I know people that aren't part of the crew, can't know how this gets handled, but I'll tell you right now: Minimodders are NEVER appreciated. Infact, it ruins somewhat every freaking chance they have to ever become part of the crew. As for myself, I hate asslickers. It's one of the facts that annoys me the most on this game. I've been on a lot of servers, and guess what? LVP is one of the finest administrated servers there is around on the SA:MP mod. I am definitely not saying this because I'm part of the crew. This is the first server I entered, roughly three full years ago. I know what I've seen when I was around as a player. But what's the difference? Well, for one, this server wasn't even an official ranked server back then. Back then, we rarely hit 100 players. When we did hit 100, it happened more and more. When LVP did become official somewhere back in summer 2007, I for a moment thought stuff was changing. I came to know nothing was changing; we just had to get used to more players. Around that time I surely was a deathmatcher like so many of you. Hell, I was in my first official clan, being SiN. Shortly after, I also was promoted to moderator, together with Cyrix and estroe, who is now even a management member.

Peter is fully correct. James is correct. Any real management member who is involved will be correct. Why? Because I know. Next to that, not every crewmember is perfect. YOU wouldn't be perfect either. Not everyone's English is perfect, but does that mean they don't understand the language? No.

Back to the subject where there aren't any administrators or moderators online on the "times they are needed". Are we forgetting that we aren't a bunch of bots? People have lives, and this is a fucking game. Get over yourselves. I for one arrive at home each day with shittons of work for the next coming days, for school. Then people come around here, asking why we don't get more crewmembers (hell, and some even got the guts to be serious and say they'd do an excellent job and that they should get temped). Why do we not get more crewmembers? Because barely anyone (oh, I'm damn serious on this one) is fit for this. We have our eyes on people, surely don't question that.

If you need to complain about an administrator on a serious subject, then feel free to contact the management of the server and talk about it, without any bullshit. They WILL infact look into this. Saying "oh they don't look into my complaints and just close them" is once again, bullcrap. If you're so convinced, then why don't you get proof? Oh yeah, you can't even get proof, so don't make assumptions either then.

I'm thinking I'll end my "short" reply here, since, as mentioned before, I still have work to do. Real life's fun ain't it? ;]

This reply doesn't go out to anyone specifically. It's what I felt like saying. I'm not going to share my opinion about some words that have been thrown around into this topic. Only one that knows on what parts I could have possibly agreed, is myself.

Wall of text. Thumbs up for anyone who actually read this and wants to continue as serious people, and not a bunch of tards.

[tomozj]

Asswipe, that's my line!

fu, it's not