Windows Vista Vs Windows Xp Vs Linux Vs Mac

[OneManArmy]

You are ignoring the fact that MS is perfectly capable of making its on free OS. Maybe a light version of XP or Vista or any of the previous fantastic OS it has produced. The only reason it doesnt do it is because of the fair trading laws which disallows any one company to hold a monopoly. There is no doubt that if not for these laws, MS would crush linux and such OS. So MS uses linux to publish its own website. whopp-de-fucking-doo. Its only doing it to comply with the fair trading laws.

You can laugh at it or cry over it... or roll over and die. It is what it is.

[TRaven]

You are ignoring the fact that MS is perfectly capable of making its on free OS. Maybe a light version of XP or Vista or any of the previous fantastic OS it has produced. The only reason it doesnt do it is because of the fair trading laws which disallows any one company to hold a monopoly. There is no doubt that if not for these laws, MS would crush linux and such OS. So MS uses linux to publish its own website. whopp-de-fucking-doo. Its only doing it to comply with the fair trading laws.

You can laugh at it or cry over it... or roll over and die. It is what it is.

Yes MS is perfectly capable of making a free OS, no it has nothing to do with the trade laws. If it produced its free OS and didn't attempt to crush its opposition (like what it's doing with its vast amounts of money; the reason that they got in trouble in the first place) then a monopoly wouldn't be created. Coming from a technical point of view, Unix is the superior platform, simple as that. From the way it handles data and its structure all the way to its customizeablity make it the platform of choice for everyone from hardware to software developers, to science, to academia, to government, to businesses. Unfortunately for those not in the know, all they see is the pretty Windows ads and the "ooo~ I lauve to play teh gamez" but for us that need every ounce of power from our machine, Unix is the way to go (to limit it to Linux would be naive, all of the Unix type OSs). The good news is that the mainstream is starting to notice the power of Unix, so soon enough the gaming factor will be gone, har har.

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2008/01/25/...u_laptop/1
http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2008/01/16/...for_2008/1

[OneManArmy]

Ofcourse MS is perfectly capable of making a free OS. The problem is, if it does, all the linux and such OS ppl will start whinning and bitching about monopoly. It was the same thing with the WMP and IE. they cried like little girls and took MS to court. And you think they will maybe look the other way if MS makes a free OS? And what proof do you have that a MAJORITY of science depts/agencies, academic depts/agencies, government depts/agencies and blah blah use linux over MS? We hear about this because some dept or agency is broke and the governmetn is broke too so they cant give them the money to get the required software. All they have left is linux.

A recent overview in uk schools about this issue was highlighted. They wanted to upgrade their computers with new software but they simply didnt have the money. Just because someone gets linux because of being broke does not mean Linux is better than MS.

And yea MS users love their games. Atleast we dont have to scumb around looking for WINE or smething to play a simply game. MS is an all rounder. You can use it for work, games, personal shit, and a whole lot others. So Mac will be getting COD4 and Spore. Big fuckin deal. I have seen spore and honetly i wont mind if Mac choose to keep it all for themselves.

And Linux dont have any leverage over work output either. The couple of seconds you save from decompressing a file in linux or whatever you linux ppl think is cool these days dont mean much to MS users.

Oh and the experts agree ( and the ol cliche' a picture is worth a 1000 words )



Watch and weep

[TRaven]

Yes, many schools and organizations who cannot afford to spend a lot of cash on licenses are attracted to Linux, adding another point to it's hat. It brings a powerful operating system to areas where it was thought to be difficult or impossible.

The current worlds fastest super computer uses Linux: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Gene

Even some of the most important systems in the world rely on the power of Linux: http://www.computerworlduk.com/managemen...ewsid=6673
an interesting quote being "Rubinow said that Linux is mature enough to meet his needs. The open-source operating system may not have all the polish of Unix technologies with 20-plus years of history behind them, "but it's polished enough for us," he said." hmm . . . no mention of any Redmond companies, huh? Only other *Unix* technologies.

When Microsoft tries to pull off their scare tactics, it don't always work: http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2007/1...-microsoft

But even Microsoft has noticed in order to survive, itself, it needs to cooperate: http://www.tuxdeluxe.org/node/277

Oh, did i say government uses linux? i meant governments use linux: http://www.computerworld.com/action/arti...ws_ts_head

hahaha, yes, GOVERNMENTS: http://www.nsa.gov/selinux/index.cfm (*gasp* a government page dedicated to Linux for the most prevalent agency?!)  http://www.shortnews.com/start.cfm?id=3271

Oh, and Linux brings peace: http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/200...inux.korea

AH! I almost forgot to address your gaming quip, yea, these are just two mainstream games that are recently being made available. The UTs have been Linux for a long ass time tho. and maybe the other gamers can address the games that are available, because i'm not really much of a gamer, just here and there.

Bah, this is all i have the energy to put up for now. A funny little anecdote that came to my mind earlier was that a past teacher of mine said that if we really want to keep our jobs, when your boss asks you what operating system to use always say Windows, because there's a guarantee that there will be problems. I nearly died laughing (and this was before i was so into Unix, or even used Unix at all). Lawl at your "decompressing a file" quip and at the pic, can ya find the vid? i would love to watch it

p.s. you remind me of the dude the guy who wrote this article was talking to: http://blog.lobby4linux.com/index.php?%2...Shade.html

Edit: oh, and i ask for the video cuz goofy things can happen to images, which is why pics found on Google should seldom be used as "proof" har har.

[OneManArmy]

Yes, many schools and organizations who cannot afford to spend a lot of cash on licenses are attracted to Linux, adding another point to it's hat.

Like when they are broke and cant affor a decent OS, they got for the free one. Linux. My point exactly.

When Microsoft tries to pull off their scare tactics, it don't always work: http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2007/1...-microsoft

We're trying to be as independent of any technologies as we can be.. Nothing to do with the so called awesomeness of linux. They are just trying to be independant. Plus lets not forget these ppl will try to save as much money as they can. Since when were stock brokers moral people? But lets not go there 

But even Microsoft has noticed in order to survive, itself, it needs to cooperate: http://www.tuxdeluxe.org/node/277

Andrew Tridgell, creator of Samba, said, "We are very pleased to be able to get access to the technical information necessary to continue to develop Samba as a Free Software project.

You can thank MS when the next version of Samba comes out.

Oh, did i say government uses linux? i meant governments use linux: http://www.computerworld.com/action/arti...ws_ts_head

So the Iranian government decided to ditch MS over AMD. It decided to ditch an organisation highly political in order to continue to maintain its infrastructure. Not because Linux was so damn good.

hahaha, yes, GOVERNMENTS: http://www.nsa.gov/selinux/index.cfm

Linux was chosen as the platform for the work because of its growing success and open development environment. Not because it was so damn good.

Oh, and Linux brings peace: http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/200...inux.korea Tongue

U mean a war torn country with very high level of poverty has decided to use linux because it was so damn good? I mean lets forget the fact that this country cannot even provide food to its own people and you want them to pay liscence fees for 1000s and more computer? Ok. Like i said, linux is a poor man's computer. South korea is poor. very poor.

Basically, none of the links suggest that linux was chosen because it was superior as some have clamied in this thread. Infact, they agree with what i have been saying all along. Maybe next time, you should concentrate more on finding links that actually support ur claim and less time on photoshop, or whatever is the cheap alternative of photoshop is avaibale in linux/unix/trash-can-OS

[TRaven]

Like when they are broke and cant affor a decent OS, they got for the free one. Linux. My point exactly.

We're trying to be as independent of any technologies as we can be.. Nothing to do with the so called awesomeness of linux. They are just trying to be independant. Plus lets not forget these ppl will try to save as much money as they can. Since when were stock brokers moral people? But lets not go there 

Andrew Tridgell, creator of Samba, said, "We are very pleased to be able to get access to the technical information necessary to continue to develop Samba as a Free Software project.

You can thank MS when the next version of Samba comes out.

So the Iranian government decided to ditch MS over AMD. It decided to ditch an organisation highly political in order to continue to maintain its infrastructure. Not because Linux was so damn good.

Linux was chosen as the platform for the work because of its growing success and open development environment. Not because it was so damn good.

U mean a war torn country with very high level of poverty has decided to use linux because it was so damn good? I mean lets forget the fact that this country cannot even provide food to its own people and you want them to pay liscence fees for 1000s and more computer? Ok. Like i said, linux is a poor man's computer. South korea is poor. very poor.

Basically, none of the links suggest that linux was chosen because it was superior as some have clamied in this thread. Infact, they agree with what i have been saying all along. Maybe next time, you should concentrate more on finding links that actually support ur claim and less time on photoshop, or whatever is the cheap alternative of photoshop is avaibale in linux/unix/trash-can-OS

Well, this pretty much shows that your literary and technical knowledge and ability is lacking. That and you really are trying hard to pull shit out of your ass, haha. If you're trying to look for an article that says "OMG! THIS IS SO DAMN GOOD!" maybe a middle school newspaper is right up your alley? Or a fanboy website, which i tend to stay away from, i believe that all OS' are beautiful. Next victim! ~.^ You're lucky I don't ask you to come up with anything that shows that windows is superior. But if you're so hell bent on that point, by all means do, hehe. ~.^V I mean, all i came up with is legitimate and demanding projects that have selected linux because it met their needs above other OS'. Now it's your turn~ I want your next post to highlight Windows' abilities and flexibility. I'm sure since its so superior that will be a walk in the park. That, and anything that will garner attention for Windows is spread by MS like the plague. In the end, all i read from your posts is "It doesn't cost anything, so it MUST suck, omglolbbq" Yea? Go make a rap video! just a bit of humor on such a boring topic, hehe

P.S. I'm glad no1 has been like "omg, flame war *close*" Cuz it really isnt, it's just an educational tour, as much for Oneman as it is for me as it is for anyone. Me and OneMan might as well get married and have babies we get along so well, haha. No, i'm serious, that's not a sarcastic comment, go to TS when we're together in there. That's why we can argue so lively-like.BTW, OneMan, did you like the picture? i thought it was pretty humorous. Dude, give me a real picture and i'll make one of you actually blowing a puppy!

[Mike]

I don't understand OneManArmy's philosophy that one has to spend money to get quality items...

[OneManArmy]

If you're trying to look for an article that says "OMG! THIS IS SO DAMN GOOD!" maybe a middle school newspaper is right up your alley?

Yea because no one will every say that. Linux is a free and open OS. That does not make it any better than XP. You take away the finacial constraints when choosing between XP and any hobo OS and XP will stomp all over any other OS. The articles u gave me proved that. Just look at the reasons being given for choosing linux. ITs either money or the open nature of the OS. That does not in any way mean that linux is better than XP.

You're lucky I don't ask you to come up with anything that shows that windows is superior.

You can ask me and ill just point you to the poll in this thread. There is no bias here. SAMP comes in both linux and Windows. Both client and server. Yet...

In the end, all i read from your posts is "It doesn't cost anything, so it MUST suck,

Not at all. I said linux is like a hobo willing to do it for free. Hobos are cool... because they do it for free. I just wont hire a hobo to be my lawyer or teacher or artist or any position of importance and value. So Nasa choose linux.. big deal. They needed an OS which they could modify for their own needs. If MS was allowed to make a free open source OS, they would bin linux in a heartbeat and go for the MS's OS. But then again, MS CANT make a free OS becoz of fair trading laws. They would be taken to court and accussed of trying to have a monopoly on the market. All i am saying, linux wasnt choosen for its superior performance or whatever u claim is the case. It was simply chosen becoz of the open source and it doesnt cost money. You cannot really expect MS to give Nasa the source code to XP just becoz they asked nicely.

BTW, OneMan, did you like the picture? i thought it was pretty humorous. Dude, give me a real picture and i'll make one of you actually blowing a puppy!

It was pretty funny. Too bad it was as credible as the links you gave me to back up ur point, baby . LMAOOO

I don't understand OneManArmy's philosophy that one has to spend money to get quality items...

Its the world we live in. Nothing good comes for free. You get what you pay for. What dont you understand about that?

[Mike]

And Let's discuss the security and stability of both Microsoft and Unix based OS's.

[OneManArmy]

Well, like i said, i have been using XP for years now and i have NEVER crashed. Plus with my anti virus and firewall and adware cleaner collection, i have not had ONE virus in the past 3 years. Since i have not used linux, i cant say the same for it. Why should i use a hobo OS when i already have a fantastic OS