Windows Vista Vs Windows Xp Vs Linux Vs Mac

[Mike]

How can you argue for one OS when you have not seen the other OS first hand? I don't think this is a comparison, I think this is a pissing contest for the ignorant. Go use linux or any other OS other than windows for a week or two, then come back.

I doubt anyone here has had a true... [Unix] ...experience however (I'm not talking about 2 minutes, or 20 even in a shop).

[OneManArmy]

Yea like everyone posting in this thread has a fuckin detailed experiance of both OS. Calling me ignorant? You think you live in a world where people dont have to pay to get quality goods. You cant run ur computer without a crash and blame it on the OS and you call me ignorant? I know why people choose XP and i know why people choose linux/unix/hobo OS. Money and open source. Not because one is better than the other. IF that was the case linux/unix/hobo OS would be the most widely used OS on this planet. But its not. And unless the world goes broke or suddenly everyone wants to have their own OS, that will remain the case.

[TRaven]

Yea like everyone posting in this thread has a fuckin detailed experiance of both OS.

*raises hand* I'm a computer engineering major and have extensive experience with Linux (My server runs on it, so do all my other PCs other than my gaming rig). Windows . . . well shit, that's a given it's where i started up (and i like it). Mac, shit, anyone who hasn't experienced vid/image editing on a mac is missing out big time, har har har, i dont own one, but i've used it for many projects.

So see, i've found niches for all the OSs, i'm not here detracting anything from any OS, like i said in my first post "They all have their place" and i throughly have integrated that into my daily life (or lack there of *zing*).

Oh, and trade laws have nothing to do with MS leaving Windows closed source, it's trade SECRETS, they wanna keep their OS proprietary. However, as more and more mainstream companies and nations adopt Linux (which has matured GREATLY over the years) MS is going to have a hard time. Oh, and about the cost of Windows, do you know what you pay for when you buy a license? Not the program, but customer service and a warranty, THAT'S what drives the price up, customer service and a warranty. Free Linux OSs don't provide that. Red Hat and others that you pay for do. However, most people that use Linux are technically adept and are their own customer service, and there's always a big community waiting to help. Unlike Windows, a small group doesn't make the operating system. Legions of programmers create the code and check, and check, and check, it's a huge hierarchy of programmers of different levels checking and making sure the code is good and solid code. It's a great project whose future quite frankly excites me, and an amazing project such as this to be free and open source? Man, it's a techie like me's wet dream. hahaha. And quite frankly . . . the fact that you have never used it and are arguing so vehemently against it . . . LAWL! LAWL! LAWL! LAWL!

[OneManArmy]

Why do you think that i need a long time experiance of linux before i state my opinion on it? You say every OS has its place and its not as if i am not agreeing with you. Infact i thought i was clear in my previous posts where linux/unix/hobo OS had their place. So far, only two reasons have been provided to explain why all these previously mentioned agencies have choosen linux.

[1] - Linux is free i.e good for financially strained agencies.
[2] - Its open source i.e good for agencies who want to modify the OS to suit their own needs.

Those two points do not make linux/unix/hobo OS better than XP. You cant say linux is much more secure than XP because if you have all the experiance in Linux, you would know that linux has its own security problems. So what makes Linux so special? Apart from it being free and open source that is.

[Mike]

I'm sorry you refuse to experience the 'other side' before you criticize it.

[TRaven]

Why do you think that i need a long time experiance of linux before i state my opinion on it?

You USUALLY need experience with the subject before you become a credible source . . . but this is fun anyway, hehe

You cant say linux is much more secure than XP because if you have all the experiance in Linux, you would know that linux has its own security problems.

I run Windows on lock, i run linux with no firewall or active antivirus, i have an antivirus installed on my linux boxes so that i can check files i'm going to share on my network so that my windows machine doesn't get fscked (um . . . windows doesnt have fsck) . . . [correction]so it doesn't get screwed up. har har.

[1] - Linux is free i.e good for financially strained agencies.
[2] - Its open source i.e good for agencies who want to modify the OS to suit their own needs.

And your two points make Linux superior from a technical and financial point of view. And that's the point of view i take when i evaluate an OS (considering i'm not REALLY your average user, har har)

hobo OS

OMG! That's a great idea! imma make an OS and call it hobOS har har har har!

MAN do i have a lot of free time lately . . . to be arguing something so silly, har har. BAH! i'm just bored . . .

[OneManArmy]

You USUALLY need experience with the subject before you become a credible source

Then i have to question your experiance with XP if u think even for a minute that some hobo OS is better than XP.

I run Windows on lock, i run linux with no firewall or active antivirus

And that is supposed to absolve Linux of every security problem it has? And u say ur technically adept?

And your two points make Linux superior from a technical and financial point of view.

I think i found the problem with our discussion TRaven. You actually think if a something is free and open source, it automatically becomes superior to something that isnt free and open source. Where as, i call it a hobo OS. Like the hobo on the street willing to do it for free. Ur reasoning is, Linux and such hobo OS are free and open source and therfore are better than XP. By that logic, if MS made a hobo OS, it would be supperior to XP. By that logic, ANY OS that is free and open source is by nature superior to XP. not very practicle, but its free and beggars cant be choosers.

I think that is a very nice way of putting it. An agency goes broke and has no money to get the required software.... so they use a second rate cheaper alternative, thats not very practicle but hey atleat its free and open source, and call it superior for being free and open source.

There is a word for that...delusion?

[TRaven]

Then i have to question your experiance with XP if u think even for a minute that some hobo OS is better than XP.

And that is supposed to absolve Linux of every security problem it has? And u say ur technically adept?

I think i found the problem with our discussion TRaven. You actually think if a something is free and open source, it automatically becomes superior to something that isnt free and open source. Where as, i call it a hobo OS. Like the hobo on the street willing to do it for free. Ur reasoning is, Linux and such hobo OS are free and open source and therfore are better than XP. By that logic, if MS made a hobo OS, it would be supperior to XP. By that logic, ANY OS that is free and open source is by nature superior to XP. not very practicle, but its free and beggars cant be choosers.

I think that is a very nice way of putting it. An agency goes broke and has no money to get the required software.... so they use a second rate cheaper alternative, thats not very practicle but hey atleat its free and open source, and call it superior for being free and open source.

There is a word for that...delusion?

hahahaha, there you go again, desperately pulling something outta your ass just for the sake of argument, hahahaha

The fact that you can modify it to fit your needs and the fact that it's free can push it in a professional's mind to the top.

also about your quip on my technical proficiency because i dont run an anti virus, you're the type of person that thinks that viruses and hacks happen just cuz. But to someone who has an understanding, we know what causes it and what to avoid (not avoid porno websites and stuff like that, what to avoid in system practices).

and you calling the NSA a broke agency is incredibly laughable. (and it's not NASA, it's the NSA, maybe you should update your knowledge on agencies)

[Hattyless]

 Stop posting random pictures in random topics - it's nothing but spam.

[OneManArmy]

Why are you going in circles? Its like u fell of the stupid tree hitting all the branches on ur way down.

How can u say linux is better than XP BECOZ its free and open source. Being free or being open source does not in ANYWAY determine what OS would be better suited to a user. Thats like saying Google Docs is better than MS Office becoz its free Or AVG is a better anti virus than McaFee becoz its free. How does something being free make a software better for any user? And the fact is, ppl use Google docs becoz they dont have the money to buy MS Office. People use AVG because they dont have the money to buy McaFee. Its not something to be ashamed of. It just means your settleing for the second best becoz its free or open source. Its hobo software or hobo OS becoz its willing to do it for free. But WHAT it does is not good as its expensive counter-part. Thats why its free... get it? Free = second best or third best but definetly not THE best. Its free for a reason. So people who arent financially able to get the right software or OS, can still have a chance at life's simple leasure. Like playing a game through WINE (lmao)