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[Serious Discussion] Religion
I don't usually get into religion cause people start giant debates over it who is right and who is wrong. Most people would consider me agnostic, I don't have a set religion. I believe that the earth was created by the "big bang" not by a "God". I have a two part belief view, a scientific view, and a "spiritual" view.

For the scientific view, I believe in reincarnation but not how most religions would view it (explained more in the next section). I believe that when an animal/human dies they will decompose, be absorbed into the soil, plants use the nutrients(or remains of the dead) in the soil, an animal/human will eat the plant and has a very slim chance that the same nutrients are used for the development of their offspring. If the nutrients are not used for the development of an offspring, then they are stored in the body of the animal or human until that one dies and the process repeats. Alternatively the nutrients could be defecated and then the process repeats. The resulting offspring would be considered the reincarnated "being".

For the "spiritual" view, as stated before I do believe in reincarnation however I do not believe that someone could remember past lives or any actions, thoughts, or memories associated with them, medically speaking, this is impossible due to the fact of how the brain works. I will not go into the complicated specifics of the brain's anatomy and physiology. If you know how the brain works, then you would understand what I am talking about, of how it would be impossible.

Anyway, back to the topic of the "spiritual" view. The spiritual view takes place after the death of a human while they are awaiting reincarnation. I believe that there is a heaven and a hell, however everyone will end up in heaven eventually. Those who are "sentenced" to hell are those who have committed explicit acts of violence, such as murder, rape, or torture. Hell is different for each "being". It is not a fiery underground place like some religions have made it out to be. Instead, it would be like a normal day-to-day life, but instead of going to bed, each day results in a fearful death. This will occur over and over, each day counts for each person they affected, not just the victim, but also all the mourning relatives and friends of the victim. Once all the "days" have been completed, the "being" will be released from the cycle and brought into "heaven". Again, heaven will be a day-to-day process, but unlike "hell" it will be filled with positive experiences, such as getting a promotion.

And that pretty much sums up my religious views so far. Like I stated before, I am not much of a religious person, I don't go around telling this story to everyone, come to think of it this is actually the first time that I have explained it to others. I tend to avoid religious discussions as much as possible, unless someone is genuinely interested in what I have to say. Most of the time I don't even think about it, I just go through life, and perhaps when I get to be old, I will put more thought into it.
If you found this interesting, and you want to know more specifics, or something was unclear, please feel free to ask.
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Pope Benedict XVI is going to resign on 28th of February, claiming "ill health". It's the first time a Pope has resigned since Pope Gregory XII in 1415.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-21411304
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Most Churches are corrupt now anyway
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Dacads, please enlighten me, since you appear to have a lot of knowledge on life and etc.

What's the point of life? You work all your fucking life for what, to become dust in the end and get eaten by maggots? What the fuck are we doing here?!
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your weird guys
telling u there is something has scientific proves and tells that there is one god
u don't want to know just because there is god in it (u have something like godphopia).
why don't u get to know more about it then decide. you know there is a chance that everyone maybe wrong
i tried to go on science etc
and found that all of the 100% proven things doesn't go against islam
and found that science didn't tell many big questions. It actually said few things.
well I also found that everything has a limit and human brain also and found that there is a maximum limit of knowledge that we can't pass
so whatever we discover there will be more.
U need to know more about islam. Not what mama US wants u to know!
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Even found his Facebook page.

(02-12-2013, 10:39 AM)ELABD link Wrote: telling u there is something has scientific proves and tells that there is one god
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U need to know more about islam. Not what mama US wants u to know!

Same old story again. Perhaps you could do the same thing. You need to know more about science. Not what Islam wants you to know.
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Dacads, I'm really struggling trying to find out what your actual point of view is. You say that you don't believe in God, and don't believe in science. Then what the hell do you believe in? Pedo Bears?

If you want to know how the universe started, your only choice is to resort to science. Unlike religion, it's not something that can't be wronged, or even forced into your mind. It's something that can be corrected and researched on. It's not something that you believe in, it's just... SCIENCE... aka KNOWLEDGE -,-

(02-12-2013, 10:39 AM)ELABD link Wrote: your weird guys
telling u there is something has scientific proves and tells that there is one god
u don't want to know just because there is god in it (u have something like godphopia).
why don't u get to know more about it then decide. you know there is a chance that everyone maybe wrong
i tried to go on science etc
and found that all of the 100% proven things doesn't go against islam
and found that science didn't tell many big questions. It actually said few things.
well I also found that everything has a limit and human brain also and found that there is a maximum limit of knowledge that we can't pass
so whatever we discover there will be more.
U need to know more about islam. Not what mama US wants u to know!

Even if science doesn't go against Islam, Islam goes against science. See the problem now?
I've been a Muslim since birth, so you can't say that what I know about Islam is what "mama US wants me to know".
I'm not the only one. If you were to count the actual number of ex-Muslims who are actually hiding their "apostasy" because of fear, there would be at least a decrease in 25% in the numbers of Muslims worldwide.

There are even countless of communities of ex-Muslims on Facebook, but the links are blocked here. Even if they weren't blocked, I would still not be able to join them since I don't want my family and friends to know.

ELABD, just open your mind a little bit. QUESTION Islam, don't be afraid. I know the idea is quite terrifying, but that's just because you've been brainwashed with these fairytales since you were a child. I know how it feels to question the religion that you were always made to believe that it is from a divine source. I direct these last lines to every other Muslim too.
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(02-12-2013, 10:39 AM)ELABD link Wrote: i tried to go on science etc
and found that science didn't tell many big questions. It actually said few things.

And how deeply have you gone into science? High School biology/physics/history? Some random crackpot websites? A YouTube video? I'm afraid that's not enough.
What does answer the big questions? An ancient book? You can't interpret the same text ad infinitum. A book has boundaries.

Quote:well I also found that everything has a limit and human brain also and found that there is a maximum limit of knowledge that we can't pass
How did you find that out?
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God craete people -- scienceists ADMIT poeple exists

GOD EXISTS
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well kaboom  ypu think i didn't open my mined and i am the brain washed one
well i have been joining such discussions for many years . my brain never stoped thinking about it and i am not like many others . give me ur phone and if there is a chance to come to egypt i can make u discuss with soneone i know
i am sure you will find answers for all wat u know

for durr so tell me sir from where shall i know about science
and do u really think that human brain is ultimate and has no limits?

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