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when exactly did i say that nothing is random in our universe? and that Everything is determined? science can be proved, is not relied on lucky only
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(05-31-2011, 05:47 PM)STyL4 link Wrote: when exactly did i say that nothing is random in our universe? and that Everything is determined? science can be proved, is not relied on lucky only
Well, you didn't agree to me that some processes happen like in a lottery.
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u cant say that Science is a lottery from that, that means everything is pure luck not true at all. Science is no luck at all, there are proven and accurate facts, there's no pure luck
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(05-31-2011, 06:09 PM)STyL4 link Wrote: u cant say that Science is a lottery from that, that means everything is pure luck not true at all. Science is no luck at all, there are proven and accurate facts, there's no pure luck

how they stumble upon some things can be by luck though
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(05-31-2011, 06:09 PM)STyL4 link Wrote: u cant say that Science is a lottery from that, that means everything is pure luck not true at all. Science is no luck at all, there are proven and accurate facts, there's no pure luck
I didn't say that whole science is like a lottery, just some events are. For example, in double slit experiment the way of a particle moving through a slit is uncertain. Some other quantum processes include lots of indeterminism too. Why do you think we have combinatorics (whole branch of science only about randomness)?
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they are, but they're well observed and u cant say whole branch of science only about randomness because at the end we know what it is about and we dont call it randomness anymore
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(05-31-2011, 10:40 PM)STyL4 link Wrote: they are, but they're well observed and u cant say whole branch of science only about randomness because at the end we know what it is about and we dont call it randomness anymore

Just because we know what it's about does not mean that these phenomena can not occur randomly.

then again, what is time...exactly?
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(05-31-2011, 10:40 PM)STyL4 link Wrote: they are, but they're well observed and u cant say whole branch of science only about randomness because at the end we know what it is about and we dont call it randomness anymore
If we use a random number generator from 1 to 6 we know that it will show a number from 1 to 6, but we can't know which one it will be. Even though we know what will happen (a number will occur), we don't know what the exact result will be.
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(06-01-2011, 11:43 AM)0Target0 link Wrote: Just because we know what it's about does not mean that these phenomena can not occur randomly.

then again, what is time...exactly?

yes, thats why u cant judge Religion because "randomness" can accure. if you think it's all a fairytale then it's just because u don't understan it well because either way you can't wrap your minds around God because u're not God

goes to this quote too > "Even though we know what will happen (a number will occur), we don't know what the exact result will be."
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(06-01-2011, 11:43 AM)0Target0 link Wrote: then again, what is time...exactly?

A system of measurement.
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