[Serious Discussion] Religion

[STyL4]

read the post yet again, it is not describing Jesus's living only, it also describes how he's showed, like the Holy Spirit etc. just like in Bible and that pretty much says it. and the parts edited were minor, they only did it for money and it is known when they did it. as I said : like to avoid the education and have education on their own only(for leadership reasons), to get the money for saying : theres new afterlife, you can check it out there etc. etc.

[0Target0]

read the post yet again, it is not describing Jesus's living only, it also describes how he's showed, like the Holy Spirit etc. just like in Bible and that pretty much says it. and the parts edited were minor, they only did it for money and it is known when they did it. as I said : like to avoid the education and have education on their own only(for leadership reasons), to get the money for saying : theres new afterlife, you can check it out there etc. etc.

Sorry but the editing was major, its an assembly of stories translated and interpreted by monks who copied them before the book press existed. At that time nobody copied a book for money, it was art. You fail at history.

[durrrrr]

as for durrr, they DID form, but the beggining itself speaks that the ENERGY had to LEAD to the ORGANISATION

Energy had to lead to the organization? I think you are talking too abstract here. Energy doesn't lead formation anywhere.

they could not form from them or any other chemical structures

If there were no amino-acids, that doesn't mean there were no chemical elements for more complex structures to form from.

evolution already predicted wrong conditions for the earth's first conditions.

I see you don't know shit about evolution, so why don't you keep your abstract thoughts for yourself.
Evolution didn't predict anything about some kind of Earth's first conditions. Don't talk bullshit just to fill in the empty space, please.

but there had to be ORGANISED force because the chances are TOO low, you can say they all formed, but chances are as low as you getting wings right now and start flying around ur house and create a snowman out of grass.

Again, if you don't know anything about the theory of evolution, don't talk about it. EVERY LIVING THING ADAPTS TO THE NATURE. If the conditions change, that means that the living creature adapts. Not in a day or a week, but in a hundred year, in a millennium or in even a longer period of time.

you are talking about evolution's progresses, but trust me the Big Bang could not be formed with such conditions and lead to such organisation.. because afterall, it was the huge amount of energy that caused everything to start "moving" on.

Big Bang didn't form. Go read some books and stop arguing just to say something.

[Hitman]

as for durrr, they DID form, but the beggining itself speaks that the ENERGY had to LEAD to the ORGANISATION

Not quite sure if I got your point there, but usually you need to apply energy for atoms and molecules to organize. In other words, if you don't apply energy molecules will get more and more un-organized (way simplified, not sure how to explain shizzle in english).

Keyword: Entropy

But I think this is going off-topic. If there would be someone to start up a new thread about Evolution, with a well-organized startpost introducing different theories backed up by references and videos to offer a solid foundation for a discussion that would be great.

[0Target0]

Not quite sure if I got your point there, but usually you need to apply energy for atoms and molecules to organize. In other words, if you don't apply energy molecules will get more and more un-organized (way simplified, not sure how to explain shizzle in english).

Keyword: Entropy

Exactly, minimal energy maximum entropy.

[STyL4]

Energy had to lead to the organization? I think you are talking too abstract here. Energy doesn't lead formation anywhere.
If there were no amino-acids, that doesn't mean there were no chemical elements for more complex structures to form from.
I see you don't know shit about evolution, so why don't you keep your abstract thoughts for yourself.
Evolution didn't predict anything about some kind of Earth's first conditions. Don't talk bullshit just to fill in the empty space, please.

Again, if you don't know anything about the theory of evolution, don't talk about it. EVERY LIVING THING ADAPTS TO THE NATURE. If the conditions change, that means that the living creature adapts. Not in a day or a week, but in a hundred year, in a millennium or in even a longer period of time.

Big Bang didn't form. Go read some books and stop arguing just to say something.

LOL! what youre doing is digging yourself a deeper hole!

"If there were no amino-acids, that doesn't mean there were no chemical elements for more complex structures to form from." do some research, energy is eternal unlike amino-acids, energy is a must in evolution and evolution theory relys on law of termodynamics - >energy is eternal< therefore big bang can be formed, but obviously energy had to be organised atleast little, it is simply too logical that from pure minimum energy and few chemical structures you can get to some stage, but not as we ARE now!


"I see you don't know shit about evolution, so why don't you keep your abstract thoughts for yourself.
Evolution didn't predict anything about some kind of Earth's first conditions. Don't talk bullshit just to fill in the empty space, please." - you dont know shit, you dont even know about Weyer's experiment, and u think u know what evolution theory is talking about! LOL!


"Again, if you don't know anything about the theory of evolution, don't talk about it. EVERY LIVING THING ADAPTS TO THE NATURE. If the conditions change, that means that the living creature adapts. Not in a day or a week, but in a hundred year, in a millennium or in even a longer period of time." - if they would adapt to the first after big bang condition as the evolution theory would say, galaxy wouldnt be so abstract, smarty.


"Big Bang didn't form. Go read some books and stop arguing just to say something. " - happent, better verb? mistyped, always looking for mistakes =O>)

[STyL4]

-edited- read my last post 

[[SAE]Grim]

My opinion is, nobody here, and specially not you styla, know alot about the space as we know it. Hell even the best scientists cant, as far as i know, prove big bang. Trying to deny big bang is just as stupid if not more than trying to prove it did exist (speaking of the ppl in this forum as I doubt anyone here is a professor in some sort of physics). Like, everything you bring up is "energy" and "termodynamics", do you have any idea how much more complex this actually is?

And its really retarded, as I stated before, everytime a discussion gets going the most used questions by religious ppl is the typical questions about big bang.

It's just the endless discussing about "God didnt exist - cant prove it" and "Bing Bang isnt real - cant prove it". If you on the other hand compare everything related to what science has done with what religion has done it's quite clear that science (technology or whatever) is on the winning side here in this timeage. I mean what fucking use has it trying to convince nonreligious ppl that God created everything, seriously no1 gives a damn and we're moving forward while u pray to God for help.
Im starting to think thats all what religion is for, doing their best to prove to everybodyelse that their God is best and that God is the reason behind everything

The human race is an intelligent specie that has evolved alot over time and the biggest thing holding it back is brainwashed religious people that just cant let go of what was necessarry for humans thousands of years ago. It's like if the fuckin apes held evolving apes in cages to prevent evolution

[Maddolis]

Yo momma so old she created the universe.

[Tuism]

read the post yet again, it is not describing Jesus's living only, it also describes how he's showed, like the Holy Spirit etc. just like in Bible and that pretty much says it. and the parts edited were minor, they only did it for money and it is known when they did it. as I said : like to avoid the education and have education on their own only(for leadership reasons), to get the money for saying : theres new afterlife, you can check it out there etc. etc.

since the bible is edited, can you post for me which particular verses are edited?

if you can't then how do you still consider it as a holy book and a word of God? and you know that people edited it.