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You're not making any sense at all and I'd REALLY like if you could post quotings and/or videos from educated people (or professors, astronomers and physicians in this case) that would explain what you're trying to say in a much better way.
When talking about stuff none in this forum understand 2% of it's much better to "copy paste" than trying to write it urself.
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(04-02-2011, 11:35 AM)STyL4 link Wrote: Big Bang is far from truth. even the evolution is.

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Christians actually deny the Big Bang and the evolution?
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(04-02-2011, 12:16 PM)STyL4 link Wrote: i know ure not good with maths, but please just try to calculate how many chances there are of big bang and complex features being formed . 1:1000000000 , if you include complex features such as brains, dna,Gravity location, AKs, planet's locations ETC. ETC. ETC. and also the atmosphere that in evolution's theories was the main part of Life being formed aka evolution's we know start. but unfortunately weyer's experiment is about to get debunked because there weren't exact conditions as it was said.

now go copy/paste more vids, its not worth my time if its not coming from poster its self.
You do understand that Big Bang was actually proven with some great evidence?
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(04-02-2011, 12:16 PM)STyL4 link Wrote: i know ure not good with maths, but please just try to calculate how many chances there are of big bang and complex features being formed . 1:1000000000 , if you include complex features such as brains, dna,Gravity location, AKs, planet's locations ETC. ETC. ETC. and also the atmosphere that in evolution's theories was the main part of Life being formed aka evolution's we know start. but unfortunately weyer's experiment is about to get debunked because there weren't exact conditions as it was said.

now go copy/paste more vids, its not worth my time if its not coming from poster its self.

Yes, the easiest option for mankind to explain something they cannot understand is 'GOD DID IT'.

Science works on doing experiments, make a model, verify the model by extrapolating the experiments or in different circumstances. Just up untill that point where an experiment shows that the model is incomplete, it is being used and considered as a solution to understand the behaviour or the existance of things.

In that same perspective 'GOD' is the 'scientific model' for people who lived 4000 years ago.

People are scared about things they can't explain, making up stories makes them feel safer.
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SAE grim, since you have NO IDEA about evolution's theory and how it started then OK, I WILL BRING Weyer('s experiment which is not accurate at all and explains evolution's first conditions in atmosphere)OR maybe Newton  who also studied bible and was Christian for a reason to explain it to u .. oh hes dead u nuub. i love debaters like u: "ye thats not true, i want educated people to tell me wut is right and wut not." u know whats the problem then? u dont see the difference between EDUCATED and FULL-OF-BULLSHIT ones. EVOLUTION ITSELF relys on "IT HAPPENT because of the luck, we had milliards of years there could be luck.." , proteins happent because of the luck, also the conditions in the atmosphere, ALL LUCK i say! and OUR location in the galaxy, ITS ALL LUCK, the conditions are perfect! oh btw, do u know if we would be 1 meter "far away" from the current position it would be too cold or too hot? naaah man its just luck, nothing else! DNA! do u realise in the evolution theory DNA just appeart in the SEA (it was RNA actually, it has almost same construction though) , were there any explanations how? LUCK I TELLZ YA! there are like 10000 more things about evolution that happent with luck... count that down and u get 1:1000000000 chances that evolution HAPPENT like that. :) we are very lucky beings yay!

what u want now grim? everything i said here is true, if u say it isnt then u deny the evolution and that would make my work easier ^^

why would i be scared about things i can't explain? what about in ur case LIE about things u cannot explain? and who says there is no science in religion? of course it is, mr. all knowing, if God is really God then we cant wrap our minds around him, meaning FULLY explain his creation BUT we CAN support creatonism which is farly more obvious than evolution itself since evolution got debunked milions of times.

Bible is accurate, the story where the Moses with slaves escaped from those soldiers(sorry for not going into that details), that story did happen. they did find loads of corpses under SEA, armors and EVERYTHING. oh i guess they just went for a swim? well, the story did happen alright, but did really God made him drown? the debaters that do not support the idea, say it was just the moon's effect = sea rised. but there's a question to this of course! WHY it HAPPENT EXACTLY when those soldiers crossed the sea? WHY NOT when Moses did and those soldiers? you can deny millions of events in the Bible or religion but u get 1000 more questions. but dont rely on bible's mistakes that much, it was edited millions of times because of the abusive leaders in the past, caring for their reputation, fame only but not for faithful Christians.

I experienced loads of atheist's discrimination on youtube, internet and so on... Christians often get "shutted" or flamed or if theyre right they change the theme or ignore him. which will probably be the case here.
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first you say:

(04-02-2011, 04:00 PM)STyL4 link Wrote: Bible is accurate

then you say:

(04-02-2011, 04:00 PM)STyL4 link Wrote: it was edited millions of times because of the abusive leaders in the past, caring for their reputation, fame only but not for faithful Christians.

how can it be accurate if it's edited millions of times? and how can you be so sure that jesus being the son of God is not another lie that was put in the bible by abusive leaders?
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BIBLE as SUBJECT of religion is accurate, the MAIN bible, the one and the only - word of God. like the mose's story I mentioned, Jesus etc.

the editions of course cannot be accurate, but thats where Zeitgeists is aiming. as i said, Jesus did live(@video) but atheists attack his powers as "matter of imagination" or "matter of lie". whole drama must be wrapped around the truth, look at whole the influence.

lol, those abusive leaders lived in the middle age , now look at when Jesus lived. its called Old Christanity, thats not a lie at all, thats where its coming from... :> thats why influence in the middle age is often being compared to Old Christianity, which is really really dumb.
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Not sure if I understood all what you said, but again, you admit that it's edited millions of times yet you believe 100% that Jesus had magical powers?
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STyL4, can you deny the Big Bang?
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(04-02-2011, 04:00 PM)STyL4 link Wrote: SAE grim, since you have NO IDEA about evolution's theory and how it started then OK, I WILL BRING Weyer('s experiment which is not accurate at all and explains evolution's first conditions in atmosphere)OR maybe Newton  who also studied bible and was Christian for a reason to explain it to u .. oh hes dead u nuub. i love debaters like u: "ye thats not true, i want educated people to tell me wut is right and wut not."

Why is it so hard for you to bring some scientific studies to backup ur arguments?
What you're saying is basically if a scientist is dead, he has no say anymore, i mean whatt the fuck. Albert Einstein is dead, should we just forget about what he said aswell?

(04-02-2011, 04:00 PM)STyL4 link Wrote: u know whats the problem then? u dont see the difference between EDUCATED and FULL-OF-BULLSHIT ones.

What? As far as im concerned you're the one being FULL-OF-BULLSHIT tbh.

Btw, are you rolling ur nose over ur keyboard while trying to type?  :?
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