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what religion do u believe in
#41
(12-10-2010, 12:36 PM)Rien link Wrote: Atheism yo.
#42
(12-10-2010, 06:02 PM)KaBooM link Wrote: and for people who don't believe in god:

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How can you believe in this thing? Big Bang theory PLUS Darwin's Theory explains the question "Where did we come from" pretty well. There was no creator.
We all started from a dot with all dimensions and infinite mass. It started expanding roughly 13.7 billion years ago (scientists proved that using formula v = HR where v = the speed of expansion of the Universe, H = Hubble's Constant, R = the distance between Earth and specified place of the Universe).
If you would ask who created the dot - nobody, it just was there forever and never. If you would ask "Why did it start expanding by and accident" or "Why did it start expanding at the specific moment" - you can't ask that, because there was no time BEFORE the Big Bang. You can't stay that the dot was there for 10 seconds and started expanding - the the time has been started the very 0.00...0001 second after the start of the Big Explosion.

Now give me some weighty arguments that the Universe, the Earth have been created by Allah (or anyone else).

(12-10-2010, 06:02 PM)KaBooM link Wrote: However, it will be your loss if you changed your religion, but Islam is the Last message from god, and you have to spread it to everyone you know, starting with your own family

I won't spread any imaginary stories/things to anyone, especially I won't take them for myself.
#43
i heard that darvins theaory originaly comes from the comunists.
#44
Saying that we all started from a dot is basically saying nothing. Where was this dot? All those things are called theories for a reason. Somebody posted a link before also saying that there was nothing before, no time etc. But it seems to me that this is said only because of people not wanting to admit that they don't know. Cmon, we don't know how it all started - that's the right answer.

I don't know much about Hubble's Constant and such stuff, but from simple logic this is just impossible to explain with saying "nothing", "no time" and "nobody" etc.

Which one was first: the egg or the chicken? :D
#45
(12-10-2010, 07:01 PM)Gibbs link Wrote: Cmon, we don't know how it all started - that's the right answer.

I don't know much about Hubble's Constant and such stuff, but from simple logic this is just impossible to explain with saying "nothing", "no time" and "nobody" etc.

Which one was first: the egg or the chicken? :D
Haha, well said man!  :)
#46
(12-10-2010, 07:01 PM)Gibbs link Wrote: Saying that we all started from a dot is basically saying nothing. Where was this dot? All those things are called theories for a reason. Somebody posted a link before also saying that there was nothing before, no time etc. But it seems to me that this is said only because of people not wanting to admit that they don't know. Cmon, we don't know how it all started - that's the right answer.

I don't know much about Hubble's Constant and such stuff, but from simple logic this is just impossible to explain with saying "nothing", "no time" and "nobody" etc.

Which one was first: the egg or the chicken? :D

There are theories which are MORE likely to be truth. Theory of the Big Bang is based on serious calculations, observations.
I could say that the Universe has been created by a 8 year-old boy. That's a theory but it's more likely to be false and it's easy to prove that. Theory of Big Bang is a best theory-fact so far.

About the questions - yes, there are questions which are impossible to explain or imagine (like "there was no time").
But impossible to imagine/explain  is not equal to  false theory.
#47
@durrrr: well, first it isn't YOUR job to spread islam, what I meant was that Muslims should spread their religion -_-' (not by terrorism of course, like what most of people think, neither by war, lol)

second, when that guy mentioned the big bang theory and he's with it, but of course God was the one who made the big bang.
Third, the Quran (Muslims holy book) which was passed to Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) 1400 years ago by God, also confirmed this theory, and made it a fact instead (for us Muslims) and if you want verses from the Quran that proves it then just say, I'll type them right away!
which also confirms that there's a god, is the Quran, it's full of miracles, Just search in Youtube: Quran Miracles, and you'll find thousands, and still discovering everyday, that just proves that a God has created this Universe and sent his holy book to the mankind so they can be guided with it.

and it's not Imaginary, Just think about the video that I posted, how can everything be created by accident? Allah (God) is the one who created everything from nothing, he created time and space when they didn't exist.

And I really, really, really, reaally don't understand how you believe that the whole great universe with it's organizing came from a dot, without a creator of it..
that's just insane, everything has to be created, Like what that guy said in the video, who created the ball? me, who created me? God who also created everything and was never created, and you're gonna tell me that I said that everything has to be created, well, except for God, because he's the creator of everything, and it's beyond our understanding to ask where god came from, because we're just humans, imagine for example that you created that ball, or let's take as another example a Computer, you created the computer and programmed it to think in a special way that's on a lower level than your thinking, So, the computer can't understand who created it, and how, and where did it's creator come from, because you didn't give it the ability to think that way.

Thank you and sorry for making it long  :>
#48
Quote:DeathEater link=topic=27203.msg360973#msg360973 date=1291999809]
Is christianity the most common religion in England?

If so... GO CHRISTIANS

It was, don't know about now. It probably still is for now but it won't be long if the government continues being walkovers to the word racism.


(12-10-2010, 04:28 PM)Jay link Wrote: Christianity - Protestant

There's my religion. :)
#49
No religion, just explicit atheism.
Yes, I know all about religions, yes I've given it plenty of thought, no I do not want to join your church, yes I would like a free flower since your cult is handing them out anyway.

I might start my own religion one day. It's an easy way of making money and I bet I can get over 100 followers.
#50
I believe in myself. I hope that equals as a religion.

nielz, in this case start off by creating a twitter account and see how many followers you'll get.