what religion do u believe in

[Maka]

look at your hands and fingers, this is what you see on your skin

without this, you couldnt pickup anyting, try to paste schotch tape on your hands
and try to pickup something, imo, this isnt something that was randomly
added by the nature, this was planed, but by who? hmm??

No offence but:  oll:

[durrrrr]

when that guy mentioned the big bang theory and he's with it, but of course God was the one who made the big bang.

No. God didn't create Big Bang. Nobody did.

the Quran (Muslims holy book) which was passed to Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) 1400 years ago by God, also confirmed this theory, and made it a fact instead (for us Muslims)

If they would have suggested the Big Bang theory 1400 years ago, then why the Big Bang theory in 1920's was such a big deal? Everybody should have known it for years - but no - it was a great discovery. Also the Quran was written by people - it's probably another book from the collection of "The Greatest Story Ever Told/The Greatest Lie Ever Told" - just like Bible and other religious books.

the Quran, it's full of miracles, Just search in Youtube: Quran Miracles, and you'll find thousands, and still discovering everyday

I want YOU to tell me examples of miracles made. Blind people that have regained their visions? Disabled people who started walking again? - If yes, don't even waste your time.

and it's not Imaginary, Just think about the video that I posted, how can everything be created by accident?

It wasn't an accident. It just happened.

And I really, really, really, reaally don't understand how you believe that the whole great universe with it's organizing came from a dot, without a creator of it..
that's just insane, everything has to be created,

THIS is where the big problem occurs. People just can't tell to themselves that the Universe doesn't necessarily need to have a creator. The Big Bang happened - that's how it went. Our minds are just too weak to understand why did it happen, so people pretend that there was a God, a creator which created all this. They just want to make it easier for themselves to understand the Big Questions of human race.
People make crazy theories to explain what they can't understand. Just remember how humans thought that Earth was like a pancake or that Earth was the center of the Universe. We try to make stupid hypothesis everyday - people see a flashing bright light in a sky - they think it's an NSO.
It's quite easy to make people believe in something. Just remember the Loch Ness monster: everybody were so interested in this monster for a few decades. Then the creator of the famous photo revealed - he said that it was only a toy submarine.
We know so few about everything it's just too primitive to say that someone created us, to write hundreds of pages detailed stories about those "Gods". Especially when you hear that those books were written thousands of years ago when people were even more uneducated...


@MIDNIGHT. Read more about Darwin's theory. We gained fingers, hands - everything to adjust to the conditions. If it was cold - in some time period we gained hairs, if it was too hot - we would have less hair and so on. We gained fingers, because we needed them to adjust to the conditions - to hunt food, make tools, etc.

[[SAE]Grim]

THIS is where the big problem occurs. People just can't tell to themselves that the Universe doesn't necessarily need to have a creator. The Big Bang happened - that's how it went. Our minds are just too weak to understand why did it happen, so people pretend that there was a God, a creator which created all this. They just want to make it easier for themselves to understand the Big Questions of human race.

EXACTLY ^^

[[SAE]DeathEater]

Some of the most highly qualified physicians understand this and how it works and the theories. But for some reason they don't like sharing it with people

Is it like a horror story or something?

[[SAE]Grim]

They arent releasing most of it because the normal population dont understand any shit of it, and people would start making wrong assumptions out from whats written by the scientists.

It's just too complicated for normal people I guessss

[nielz]

Just something for all creationists to think about...

If you believe there is a god because you see things that you cannot explain; where did (s)he come from?

For those who do not understand or take this the wrong way;
If you cannot explain something (because it is too complex), it’s not an explanation to add another complicated factor like a god-figure. You're not explaining anything; you're making it more complicated. If the universe was so complex to create and a godlike-person made it, than that person would be many times more complex, so how do you explain where he came from?

And for the argument "he made himself", that the most insane explanation ever. If the universe couldn't have come from nothing, but it required a god-power, how come that god-power could come out of nothing??? Like I said, it's not logical to create an extra complicated factor to explain something you do not understand.

I bet that 99% of the Christians here are Christian because their parents were. Also 99% of the Muslims here are Muslims because their parents were. I'd be surprised if more than 5% of all creationists made their own choice and did not follow their parent's indoctrination.

So think about it, what are the chances that your religion is the correct one? Do you believe that if you were born to atheist or Buddhist parents that you would’ve chosen the religion that you believe in right now?

Oh, there is one large group of people who have Christian, Muslim, Jewish, Sikhism, Mesopotamian, Zoroastrianism or Tengriism parents but chose another explanation. They are called Atheists, and usually (almost always) came to their own conclusions by free thought.

One more thing, if the first and only people that god created were Adam and Eve (or the equivalent in Islam or any other religion), then all thousands of years of the incest (without any evolution/variation, since we rule that out) since the beginning of time would've created nothing but retards. So instead of fighting the enormous insult that we are related to monkeys, you're saying that we're all incest bred retards...

No need to quote and reply, just think about it.
Oh and yes, my entire family is Christian, and I've actually spend time in researching and thinking for my own only to make a logical decision. You should try it sometimes. Free will and free thought ftw!

[durrrrr]

One more thing, if the first and only people that god created were Adam and Eve (or the equivalent in Islam or any other religion), then all thousands of years of the incest (without any evolution/variation, since we rule that out) since the beginning of time would've created nothing but retards. So instead of fighting the enormous insult that we are related to monkeys, you're saying that we're all incest bred retards...

I actually asked about this my teacher (don't know how to say the name of the lesson in English where they teach about Christian God) and she said that Adam and Eve are only used to represent the human race. She said that God created thousands of people at the same time.

There's one thing that I can't understand with Christianity. Bible says that Earth is ~6000 years old. How do then scientists find fossils which are up to 100 000 years old?

[[SAE]Grim]

The Bible is a lie and a damn good brainwasher

[YiXXeY]

Grim link=topic=27203.msg361053#msg361053 date=1292016145]
The Bible is a lie and a damn good brainwasher

your weak then

[nielz]

I actually asked about this my teacher (don't know how to say the name of the lesson in English where they teach about Christian God) and she said that Adam and Eve are only used to represent the human race. She said that God created thousands of people at the same time.

There's one thing that I can't understand with Christianity. Bible says that Earth is ~6000 years old. How do then scientists find fossils which are up to 100 000 years old?

Your teacher has her own interpretation of the bible. She's one of those people who believe that some parts are true (maybe other parts are not) and almost everything can be read the way you want it. That's the easiest form of religion I can think of. You can suddenly explain everything that's not right, because you can just make something else out of it until it makes sense.
It's changing god's rules, changing your precious book since you know that it’s wrong. You can sleep better at night since all those nasty scientific questions have been answered in the easiest way, but deep inside you know that it’s not right.

About the fossils, do you believe something that someone once wrote down, or something that has been proven by science many many times and that you can see with your own eyes. Think logical for once, act like you were not indoctrinated throughout your entire childhood. The choice is simple;
-The bible is wrong, there is no god
-Science is wrong, there are no fossils
-Your very own interpretation of the bible, semi-religion, making changing the religion until it makes sense. (But deep down you know its a lie)

This is your last chance. After this, there is no turning back. You take the blue pill - the story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill - you stay in Wonderland and I show you how deep the rabbit-hole goes.