BIG BANG OR BIBLE?

[0Target0]

Endless discussion, religious ppl always lose, they are brainwashed.

[PacoBeanZ]

I believe in LunaZ, she helped me get an A++ on my arithmetic exam  ! Therefore she must know everything! 

[durrrrr]

Perhaps they do in some sense...

There's a verse in Quran: [20:124] "And whoever turns away from My reminder, his shall be a straitened life, and We will raise him on the day of resurrection, blind."

A book can't prove itself. The same way statements in science don't prove themselves - you have to do experiments to test them.

[Maddolis]

Perhaps they do in some sense...

There's a verse in Quran: [20:124] "And whoever turns away from My reminder, his shall be a straitened life, and We will raise him on the day of resurrection, blind."

The bible says that the Christian god is the only true god, and the bible also says that everything in the bible is true. There you have it, proof that one (and only one) Christian god exists.
Seriously, arguments like these make me lose hope in humanity.

[Tuism]

The bible says that the Christian god is the only true god, and the bible also says that everything in the bible is true. There you have it, proof that one (and only one) Christian god exists.
Seriously, arguments like these make me lose hope in humanity.

That's not what I meant and my brain doesn't operate that way either.
What I meant is that the Quran has designed a way of life in which its followers will gain psychological comfort, and the statistics show that.
I'm still wondering why Islamic countries have the lowest suicide rates.

[Maddolis]

Because you'll get murdered before you have a chance to kill yourself.

[Tuism]

Because you'll get murdered before you have a chance to kill yourself.

I heard Atheists are logical... I heard wrong.

[Maddolis]

Hah what, do you want a real argument to that stupid statement?
Danny already gave a reasonable retort to your pointless "fact" (though I'd love to see a great deal more evidence supporting it). What does that matter, anyway? Are living conditions amongst the starving children in third world African countries any better because they have lower suicide rates?
Besides I'm sure if you looked into it you'd find that suicide isn't particularly closely linked to religion so much as it is bullying or emotional, secular matters.

[0Target0]

I'd like to know what you people think about this: http://i31.tinypic.com/335fwgn.jpg

Can it be considered as a proof of the truthfulness of Islam?

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If i'm not mistaken, below the graph is a number...what does that number mean? 1985 per 100000 for muslims? Someone tinkered with that graph.

[IDmad]

I'd like to know what you people think about this: http://i31.tinypic.com/335fwgn.jpg

Can it be considered as a proof of the truthfulness of Islam?

Source: [Link]

Those statistics are over 15 years old and u can't reflect them to the present day. Even on that link it says u can't link religion to suicides since there's so many other variables that affect person's mental health and suicide risk (social factors, climate etc). Like Maddolis said:

Besides I'm sure if you looked into it you'd find that suicide isn't particularly closely linked to religion so much as it is bullying or emotional, secular matters.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cou...icide_rate
For example on #4th place there's Kazakhstan where 70% of the population is muslim.
On the 1st place is Lithuania which has 80% Roman-Catholic population.
Most of the muslim countries seem to have a bit under the average suicide rates but nothing drastic. Like I said religion doesn't prove anything on this part.

Since Quran stricly forbits suicide it may also lower the amount of muslim suicides and in some cases a person's suicide might be denied or covered so that the family and the person won't be put into shame. That way the statistics become twisted and flawed since all the suicides aren't reported.

I'm atheist myself but I couldn't give a shit about what everyone believes in as long as they keep it to themselves. Only the fundamentalist believers from each religion should be sent to a one big deserted island and they could fight there who's religion is the best.
The reason why I don't believe in anything is because after u read those holy books u realise what it would take to live like they expect u to. It's insane and totally unrealistic. Maybe 1000-2000 years ago it could've worked to some degree but not today nor in the future.

I'm not gonna argue about anyone's religion since it's a never ending fight where u can argue as much as u can/want but it eventually takes u nowhere. A total waste of time.