Leaving.

[Ben]

Hello B&A gang members, I have some news.

For the time being, i am leaving B&A. There have been some things happening in B&A
and i feel im not having fun anymore. I had alot of fun as a B&A gang member, and
I hope its been fun having me in the gang, but until i have sorted these things out,
Which i probably wont, i am quiting B&A.
Can a sub forum moderator please take away the B&A gang member tag away from my name.

[Buhu.]

You're REALLY overreacting a lot and it's kinda lame you're not even explaining this to our members so I will;

Today there was an incident where benbmyers started to shout to samandhi that he should stop shooting this player. So I asked benbmyers to give a good reason why samandhi shouldn't shoot him. The reason benbmyers gave is that it was his friend. As everyone probably knows this is not a general rule and we even removed the whole friends system to avoid these exact problems. So, all I said was that it wasn't a very good reason and that if benbmyers didn't want to shoot him it was okay but that by no means samandhi wasn't allowed to shoot him. This apparently pissed benbmyers of to this points. All benbmyers said was that he found that I was being very disrespectful which is just not true, I also asked samandhi if he found what I said was disrespectful and he agreed that it wasn't AT ALL. Also benbmyers started to flame me how I wasn't worth it being a gangleader etc, but I'll just forget that part  .

Since I don't feel like explaining everything over and over, here is the log of the conversation I had with benbmyers on irc:

[01:14:37] ok, I'll try again
[01:14:43] are you available?
[01:15:19] What
[01:15:36] WHAT is your problem benb
[01:15:39] ur overreacting here
[01:15:50] Im not Buhu
[01:15:55] yes, you are
[01:16:01] samandhi agreed with me that I said nothing wrong
[01:16:09] and nothing that was disrepectful
[01:16:20] Yes. yes you did
[01:16:27] and why do you think that?
[01:16:33] Its not the first time
[01:16:36] cause I said samandhi was allowed to shoot ur friend?
[01:16:57] Many times you have bad mouthed me, which i know is sometimes a joke, but i have my limits
[01:17:02] That also
[01:17:07] many times?
[01:17:11] thats bullshit
[01:17:11] I ask, dont shoot hes my friend
[01:17:14] I dont even remember one time
[01:17:27] Well, im sorry you feel that way Buhu
[01:18:03] I've never had a problem with u as far as I can remember
[01:18:43] No, not a problem as such
[01:18:59] anyway
[01:19:11] you still haven't pointed out the part where I was disrepectful?
[01:19:21] so if you would be so kind to do that now
[01:19:30] what, you want me to tell you a time you disrespected me?
[01:19:38] sure
[01:19:41] give me everytime
[01:19:43] Ok
[01:19:53] Im not going to give you every time
[01:19:56] But il say a few
[01:20:04] Lets start with, tonight say
[01:20:41] I ask you, to not shoot my friend, i said to him we are a good gang, maybe one day he could become one, the minute he steps out the car, hes dead
[01:20:47] So i say please dont shoot himk
[01:20:52] first of all
[01:20:55] I NEVER shot him
[01:20:57] I told him its a misunderstanding
[01:21:10] not even after I said that samandhi was allowed to.
[01:21:12] I say in gang chat
[01:21:52] Buhu, you were saying, give us a reason, give us a reason and i had him shouting at me telling me he had lost all his money
[01:22:06] So, could you not have just said, ok, dont shoot
[01:22:08] Its not hard
[01:22:16] benb
[01:22:25] we were talking about where I was being disrespectful
[01:22:53] Yes.
[01:22:57] so continue..
[01:23:36] The whole point is, you were acting as if you were looking down at me, like i was wrong, and that it was my fault i brought him to you all
[01:23:49] not true at all benb
[01:23:54] I just explained to you and samandhi
[01:24:01] that we don't use the friends system anymore
[01:24:08] and like the post I put on our forum
[01:24:20] I said it is ok for people to respect not shooting your friend
[01:24:31] but that by no means it is a RULE one must STICK to
[01:24:50] Well
[01:24:56] you just pulled it out of context and never even gave me the chance to explain what I ment properly
[01:25:06] instead u start overheating and flame me
[01:25:14] which I find kind of immature
[01:25:43] Like you said, maybe im not just B&A material anymore
[01:26:08] see, now you're going offtopic again
[01:26:28] No, i dont think i am
[01:26:31] I'm not looking down on you and I wasn't when I said that to you either
[01:26:48] you just interpreted it wrong and then put the blame on me
[01:27:05] while, honestly, I didn't say anything wrong
[01:27:24] no I dont beleive that.
[01:27:29] I think im finished here
[01:27:41] looks to me you're just looking for a way out of B&A
[01:28:09] Ok, were you playing everyday on LVP as b&a
[01:28:11] No.
[01:28:19] your point?
[01:28:21] Infact, did i see you at all in the summer?
[01:28:22] No.
[01:28:32] your point?
[01:28:35] Do you think i would just change my mind for no reason
[01:28:36] No
[01:28:44] I liked being in B&A
[01:28:49] again, your point?
[01:29:06] oh wait I get it
[01:29:25] I dont feel as if its fun, thinking your judging me all the time
[01:29:37] ?
[01:29:38] wth
[01:29:44] that's not very relevant benb
[01:30:00] what is your point in saying: [01:28:09] Ok, were you playing everyday on LVP as b&a
[01:30:10] you don't like it Ronald and I took over?
[01:30:18] yes, i do
[01:30:24] then what IS your point
[01:30:30] You were saying you think im just trying to get out B&A
[01:30:38] yeah
[01:30:42] And Im saying i played everyday as a member
[01:30:44] I'm not the only one
[01:30:46] in my summer
[01:30:56] Your not the only one what?
[01:31:03] well then I don't understand you're making such a problem out of nothing now
[01:31:16] I'm not the only one who thinks you're looking for a way out
[01:32:15] Well, tell the 'other' people to fuck themselves, because now im really pissed off that people think im fucking making it up
[01:32:18] Im going ingame
[01:32:22] goodbye
[01:32:29] ...

[Turkey]

Benb come one you really overeacted. 
I'll catch you if I see you to talk.
And Buhu no offense but you really act sometimes to agressive and it might go over the limit of ppl.

[Buhu.]

Well, we're playing an aggressive game and we're an aggressive gang this also affects me and in the heat of the moment I will act aggressive, like everyone does. The problem is that some of our members like to take it out of context and interpret it the wrong way. If that's a problem with hormones and puberty or something, I really don't know but it's quite annoying that my words always get twisted in a negative way. Bottom line is, this ain't Hello Kitty Online so if you can't handle a few harsh words maybe B&A isn't the right place for you.

[Ronald_McDonald]

I agree with what Buhu has said. I myself find it really annoying to read posts like this when members of the gang can't bring themselves to talk about anything that's bothering them and instead resort to making irrational decisions about quitting because they had a small disagreement with someone. I accept that most of the players who play this game are young, but I think most of us would agree that B&A contains largely more mature players than any other gang and that's the way we want to keep things. If people can't discuss their problems like adults and accept harsh words at times then they shouldn't be in this gang.

[FiRe aka Jamee]

Well....i think Buhu is right...the friendsystem is sometimes very annoying.....
and i think that this reason you gave benb is realy such a reason to step out of B&A...
If someone cries cause his friend were shooting by some people lol dont know what to think about it...some members are very infantile.. 
so B&A isnt realy the right gang for you like Buhu said!!!

[s0mb0dy]

BENB i gone miss you keep contact cya around m8

[Buhu.]

As requested by benbmyers himself his rights are already removed so he won't read any posts in here anymore...

[snoob]

useless reply

- Buhu

[Buhu.]

After some conversations with benbmyers we are happy to announce that he will be back in B&A soon.