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#21
(02-26-2009, 04:12 PM)Prez link Wrote: moreover i heard that gta4 doesnt run very well on ATI cards as it keeps crashing, dunno if that's true tho.

That aint true. I got a ati card and i got absolutly no problem with gta4 im playing on very high without problem with a hd4870.  I got some friends with Ati 4870x2 and crossfire works very well in gta 4 tho.
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#22
lol, what did i say about useless posts in my previous post :P You guys have not even heard about his specs and you are already discussing the very high end cards.
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#23
(02-26-2009, 04:32 PM)cloakster link Wrote: lol, what did i say about useless posts in my previous post :P You guys have not even heard about his specs and you are already discussing the very high end cards.

Yea sorry about that, but it is so fun to arguing with hitman _O-
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#24
(02-26-2009, 01:07 PM)mjaa link Wrote: You get more fps / euro  with the ati card.

Sure nvidia is better, "not always, hd4870x2 is better on really high resolution"

But it cost to much to be pricy. you can get a hd4870x2 for 350 euro.

Mine cost: €480,- ;)


(02-26-2009, 04:12 PM)Prez link Wrote: moreover i heard that gta4 doesnt run very well on ATI cards as it keeps crashing, dunno if that's true tho.

That isn't true, I got almost no problems with crashes..
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#25
@mjaa

Havok is open for everyone, not a ATI thing. And it wont be implemented in GPUs, its a CPU only thing. There are loads of games that use Havok.

To the GPU thing, trust me if you compare a GPUs render power to a good CPU ones, the CPU gets sooo badly outperformed.

I have a Q9550 at 4x 3.6GHz stable running, still rendering a movie needs about 2-3 hours longer than using my GTX 260.

To the power consumption your right. Both, HD 48xx series and nvidias G92 chips are real power killers. I mixed it up with the new GTX 200 series, which barely uses 20-25W in idle.

To the Linux drivers, no idea, thats what the situation was a year or two ago.
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#26
(02-26-2009, 07:11 PM)Hitman link Wrote: @mjaa

Havok is open for everyone, not a ATI thing. And it wont be implemented in GPUs, its a CPU only thing. There are loads of games that use Havok.

To the GPU thing, trust me if you compare a GPUs render power to a good CPU ones, the CPU gets sooo badly outperformed.

I have a Q9550 at 4x 3.6GHz stable running, still rendering a movie needs about 2-3 hours longer than using my GTX 260.

To the power consumption your right. Both, HD 48xx series and nvidias G92 chips are real power killers. I mixed it up with the new GTX 200 series, which barely uses 20-25W in idle.

To the Linux drivers, no idea, thats what the situation was a year or two ago.

I know alot of people who bought a secound nvidia card just to use as physX card.. And they say, no fucking diffrent :P and after that sold the cards.

A gpu is better on many things.. But right now, physX it aint helping cpu that much in games.


Amd and intel are working hard with havok...  Me and many belive that havok is the future,  and physX will die.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/multimedia/...ology.html

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/hardware/20...will-die/1
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#27
well, buying an extra card for physx is just useless, since every card with the power of an 8800GT or higher has enough power to do both, game and physx at the same time.

and no difference? thats because much games aint supported yet, before i would buy an extra physx card id check the list if my favorite games are in there lol

http://www.nzone.com/object/nzone_physxgames_home.html
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#28
@mjaa, obviously there's not going to be a performance difference if no games support Physx
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#29
lol, every time someone on these forums asks for computer advice, we give them advice and then they never post a reply.
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#30
Well cloakster, thats because we seem to nerdy for them, they better trust the 16-year-old unmotivated bestbuy trainee
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