11-17-2008, 05:15 PM
(11-17-2008, 04:32 PM)Mike link Wrote: This is getting pointless. Haze, Maddolis, and Hitman, only about 10 people have posted here wanting the C-Bug, not hundreds. Jay, you just keep going on and on about the same thing. Engage some new points, or shut the fuck up; it's annoying.
So, Haze, Maddolis, and Hitman, I suggest you get a couple hundred people to post here, saying they want this allowed, or you guys should shut the fuck up too.
Thank you.
Don't say that.
(11-17-2008, 01:16 PM)Maddolis link Wrote: I'm not saying that the devs never fight, I'm just saying that from the people who have posted here and who I have asked ingame, 98% of the fighters want it to be allowed.
Half the admins stay on the ship or cruise or whatever (not saying you're one of them Jay- heck you used to be my gang leader- just saying at least half of them), and while I'd respect (or be made to respect) their opinions on chatting and cruising, if these people never fight then their opinion doesn't carry much weight.
I even know of a few crewmembers who would like the c-bug allowed.
As far as I've seen so far, there's about 3-5 people who want it to remain disallowed, and hundreds who want it allowed like it used to be. Whether these 3-5 people are developers or admins or regular players, it doesn't matter- its still 0.5% of the fighting community- we gotta ask ourselves what would be best for the entire community, and give the people what they want.*
It's not only the 'fighting community' that matter here - remember that other players get assraped too by your fighting, and do you really think that it's fair to get raped by a noob with a deagle using some bug when trying to buy properties, where usually a player could run away? As long as players are fighting on LVP and killing non-fighters, then this point is valid. You're saying that it's only up to the 'fighting community' as they're the only ones affected, when that's clearly incorrect (and I'm amazed that didn't come to mind when you wrote your point).
(11-17-2008, 06:04 AM)HaZe link Wrote: 1. it makes it easier for a new player with little money, and wants to earn money with nothing but a desert eagle, while other people have sawns. use the c-bug for defense and you're all good.
You start at the bottom for a reason: to build yourself up. Again, is this really fair that DMers can simply bug their way to the top without having to try hard at all, and non-DMers are up against the hordes of fighters, and now the buggy noobs? Unfair.
(11-17-2008, 06:04 AM)HaZe link Wrote: 2. it makes duels more exciting
Bringing in a new bug isn't the correct way to spice up your SA-MP life.
(11-17-2008, 06:04 AM)HaZe link Wrote: 3. when u switch to the wrong gun in a sawn fight, c-bug fixes the error
Don't be so stupid to do this in the first place - it's not hard at all to simply press q or e again. Oh, and if you argue that you shoot before you can see then that's a problem with your technique and you are bringing this 'error' on yourself. Anyway, how are you going to do the c-bug faster than simply changing weapons again?! Your argument is weak.
(11-17-2008, 06:04 AM)HaZe link Wrote: 4. you can avoid grenades and burning cars if ur shooting a walk weapon
Oh come on, you seriously don't need a bug for that. Read what I said above again and you'll see some points relevant to this also. You can simply stop shooting and run also! Jeez.
(11-17-2008, 06:04 AM)HaZe link Wrote: 5. it's a very widespread and popular form of fighting
Woah, who cares? That doesn't make it right. Weed is very popular but I believe it's still illegal where I live.
(11-17-2008, 06:04 AM)HaZe link Wrote: 6. many servers allow it, such as a highly popular one known as GTA:T (GTA Tournament)
Yes, your one example proves how so many servers allow it. The majority are probably gang servers (you know I'm right). As someone stated earlier, both PS and LWs both disallow this bug. Obviously LVP isn't the only ones not allowing this. GTA:T is a DM server, whereas LVP is more than just DM. Different type of server, yet another point which counters pretty well, and links up to a previous point I made about equality between DMers and non-DMers.. this is getting quite tedious now..
(11-17-2008, 06:04 AM)HaZe link Wrote: 7. obviously the majority of LVP want this to be allowed, and they're the ones that fucking matter in this community.
The majority haven't replied, and definitely the majority haven't replied and stated they want this to be allowed. And don't you say "they're the ones that fucking matter", as many pieces make up the puzzle - how the hell do you think you can play on such a fast server, which is available 24-7? How do you think you can play such a great gamemode, and be able to have others script up the features you suggest? If I were you, I'd take that back - everyone in this community matters (excluding Jay, sorry).