Government secrets? Or just another conspiracy theory.

[Turkey]

Hmm...according to Islam he was kicked out of paradise because he refused to bow down to God's creation - Adam - where as all the Angels did bow down on God's command as they don't have free will.

The reason he didn't bow down to Adam was because he thought that he is superior to the humans as he (Satan) was made of fire where as Adam was made of clay. Angels are made of light btw.

So after that, God wanted to send him directly in hell but Satan begged to God if he could also go to the world (we live in) so he can fool (or test) the humans for that they sin and go to hell until the day of judgement.

Since then Satan hates us and that's another reason why he tricked Adam and Eve to eat from the tree of life, where as God clearly forbid them to eat from it.

After that, Adam and Eve were temporarly kicked from the paradise...now we're here.

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Lucifer dindt fall, he was send to earth/hell by godhimself, because lucifer had this ''great'' power, he almost tought he was as powerfull as god and tought he could overlook ''god''

Did you read that from the Bible, Greyfox?


I've read that Angels 'send stones' (comets etc?) to Djinns who want to eavesdrop on paradise. I'll look for that verse sometime soon..

[Munch]

After that, Adam and Eve were temporarly kicked from the paradise...now we're here.

If Adam and Eve were real, that means I'm related to estroe....HELL NO!

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Lucifer dindt fall, he was send to earth/hell by godhimself, because lucifer had this ''great'' power, he almost tought he was as powerfull as god and tought he could overlook ''god''

Lucifer was an angel who turned to the dark side, making him a fallen angel, along with other 'demons'

[Jerome]

Since then Satan hates us and that's another reason why he tricked Adam and Eve to eat from the tree of life, where as God clearly forbid them to eat from it.

After that, Adam and Eve were temporarly kicked from the paradise...now we're here.

Adam & Eve .. God's perfect creation.

So it begins, that God created man from dust and blew life into his nostrils .. and planted a Garden for them to work in, and to live in, and created Animals in an attempt to find a mate for Adam, non were satisfactory and so .. he made Adam sleep, in his sleep God removed on of Adam's ribs .. and from that he created a woman .. Eve.


God allowed Adam and Eve to eat from any tree and eat anything in the garden of Eden except from the Tree of Knowledge. The story goes .. an evil snake (serpent) lured Eve to eat from the the tree of Knowledge and her "eyes would be blown wide open" .. so she did .. she ate the fruit and gives some to Adam aswell .. suddenly they are very aware of themselves being naked .. and cover themselves up with fig leaves. So when God came back to the Garden to check on his creations and found them covered up .. he questioned why they were covered up .. and so Adam blamed Eve and Eve blamed the serpent .. god was very angry at the serpent and so banishes him from the Garden of Eden (according to the Bible the serpent must've had legs) "upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life."

God then curses Adam and Eve with hard labor and with pain in childbirth, and banishes them from his garden, setting a cherub at the gate to bar their way to the Tree of Life.

Very very very short version of events .. a lot of things follow this. Anyone who is interested should read the Bible.

[Sean3]

alright i think we should just go back to aliens, i dont know what adam and eve have ANYTHING to do with aliens

anyways Area 51 does exist i believe, but its "top secret organization"(as usual the government keeping more secrets from us). i truly believe that we arent educated to the fullest because some truths are 2 bizarre to believe in.

[Munch]

Area 51 does exist, there's no belief about it. My older brother once found it on Google Earth a couple weeks ago.

[Sean3]

i dont think its called Area 51, but there is a governmental base called Area something, actually theres a lot, but the one which is described as a base that works with aliens does exist.

[Munch]

It's called Area 51, and it doesn't work with aliens lol, it works with 'top secret' stuff, which some people believe aliens are included in that category.

[Sean3]

It's called Area 51, and it doesn't work with aliens lol, it works with 'top secret' stuff, which some people believe aliens are included in that category.

thats what im saying. . .

[Munch]

thats what im saying. . .

I know that's what you're saying, but you just said it wrong

Some people believe they work on stuff that are too dangerous to be exposed and stuff. I think there's a sign a few miles near the place saying to turn back, and if you pass that sign you're a dead man (or turkey)

[Jerome]

Area 51 does exist, there's no belief about it. My older brother once found it on Google Earth a couple weeks ago.

True story. Me and a friend checked it out in college a couple of weeks back, not much to see .. few runways .. some fences, but I bet there is a whole load of shit underground. Guarantee you.