Which is better?

[Strika]

btw look at u

Didn't really get that, but whatever.

What I want less is stress and problems with gaming issues within the graphic card, I had enough by now and only want the best performance out of the card.

[Hitman]

Well, most issues in games arent from the card at itself, rather from your display driver and the way you installed it.

If you have an old driver and want to update it, dont just install the new driver. For a correct installation you should delete the old driver, reboot your PC, clean your registry with "CCleaner" of any old driver rests, then reboot your PC, and then install the new driver.

If you just install the new one without deleting the old one, it often occurs in bugs ingame.

Btw, you cant compare the HD 3650 and the 9800GTX+.

While the 9800GTX+ is way way way WAY faster, it costs about 120€.  The HD 3650 just costs about 35-45€.

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I dont know about your system and OS, but i got a nvidia geforce GTX 260 which has the same power as a HD 4870.

Why did i choose the nvidia card?

- Linux driver support
- low power consumption in idle
- no loss of warranty when i change the default cooler of the card (yea, you still have your warranty with EVGA)

Thats basically the reasons why i am happy to pay ~15€ more for the same power as the hd 4870.

Decide by yourself if you need anything of it, if not, just choose the card that looks cooler.

[Jhon]

Well Hitman, as I said before, I'm thinking of getting a NVidia card as soon as I get the $$$. Also, I am not 100% sure if the problem is the Vcard itself or if the MoBo is bottlenecking it. Anyways I know why I am saying that I experience problems, tried in all the ways: installing new drivers over olders, installing new drivers on a clean-formatted Windows install, and almost got the same problems. Anyways Strika didn't ask what was the worst Vcard, so, once again, I recommend you the NVidia, and if you don't need it RIGHT NOW and can save some money, you can wait some months and buy the GTX 295, which should be better than the 9800.

[cloakster]

you can wait some months and buy the GTX 295, which should be better than the 9800.

Should? You mean is

[Jhon]

Well cloak I say should because I guess you saw what happened with the 280GX2: They all said it'd be kick ass and at the end it was just a fkn expensive car and even the 9800GTX had better score @ Benchmarks.

Once again, ontopic, NVidia ffs.

[cloakster]

Benchmarks for the GTX285 and GTX295 came out a while ago

[Maddolis]

The 295 is clearly better than the 9800 - whether or not it's worth its price is a different story.

[cloakster]

Hitman, XFX has already started selling ATI cards and i definitely see Evga eventually following this trend

[Hitman]

Yeah i know about XFX and i really would love EVGA to sell ATI cards too

@Johnson  there is no 280GX2.


The GTX 295 is way faster than a 9800GTX+, but hey, what surprise:

GTX 295 =  ~ 370€ here
9800GTX+ = ~140€

[Strika]

Yeah i know about XFX and i really would love EVGA to sell ATI cards too

@Johnson  there is no 280GX2.


The GTX 295 is way faster than a 9800GTX+, but hey, what surprise:

GTX 295 =  ~ 370€ here
9800GTX+ = ~140€

exactly. if everyone would have money to spend, they would be all with best pc's or cards out.