(10-10-2010, 11:00 PM)Munch link Wrote: I don't blame Rooney. Rooney is going through a similar problem as Torres. He went into the World Cup on the back of an injury, played crap then went straight back into Man U's starting XI. Torres had the same problem and they're both struggling to find their feet (and now Torres is injured again so it'll take him a while).

Their problem is the owners. They haven't treated Fergie like shit or anything like Hicks and Gillett did to Rafa. They didn't try sacking the club's board members and bringing in their own friends to drag the club further down. Instead they just put a 850m+ debt on them and they don't have much else bringing in the money whereas Hicks has the Texas Rangers team (he bought that after George Bush too ).

Also Ferguson will be 70 next year and by the time he retires most of his team will too. The only quality players remaining will be the likes of Rooney, Carrick, Fletcher, Valencia, Macheda, Nani, Hernández amongst others. And infact they may not even have Rooney, he might go to Real Madrid or Barcelona or something. They'll lose Ferdinand, Vidić (soon after), Scholes, Neville, Giggs, Berbatov, Ji-Sung Park, Wes Brown, Evra and even worse van der Sar. They sold Ben Foster so I don't know what other quality keepers they have to replace him.

With the huge debt (especially if they get kicked out of the Champions League early) they won't have the funds to get quality players back in and time isn't on their side. When Ferguson retires and the new manager comes in (Mourinho?) he'll be walking into a retirement home and will have to build his own team with not much resources.

(Big post again... )

(10-11-2010, 12:30 PM)AzKiller link Wrote: True , but MAN UTD got somme young quality players like macheda and rafael
But soon they will have to buy other players and they'r debt will get bigger and bigger...

(10-18-2010, 08:34 PM)dappamikey link Wrote: And yet you still mock spurs for enjoying the success we're having right now. Your club is the laughing stock of the premier league, nothing more than bridesmaids for the last 20 years yet you still claim some kind of superiority because of things you did 30-40 years ago.

(10-18-2010, 08:34 PM)dappamikey link Wrote: And on the topic of the Big 4, you seem to forget there was once a big 5 of Arsenal, Man utd, Spurs, Liverpool and Everton, times have changed since then and the Big 4 is no different. Let's be honest the last 5 years it's been pretty much a big 2 of Chelsea and Man Utd, barring one season of over performance of Liverpool, with the other 2 making up the numbers. And who cares about how many fans you have in China etc? We have 30,000 fans on our season ticket waiting list - the real fans. And all this coming form a club that have spent the entire Premier League era in mid table mediocrity with the occasional flirtation with relegation.

(10-18-2010, 08:34 PM)dappamikey link Wrote: It's about time Liverpool fans got in the real world (I'm enjoying this great period for Tottenham while it lasts as I know only too well it won't last forever) and realised no club has a divine right to success based on their past acheivements or fanbase or whatever other stat.

(10-19-2010, 04:25 PM)azerty link Wrote: Gotta agree liverpool got fucked when those two americans came 

Rooney leaving United ? 

(10-19-2010, 04:40 PM)Munch link Wrote: It's said he's valued at £100m, last season I'd agree with him being at about £50m but not at the moment. And to top it off it's rumoured that Man City are willing to pay him £500k a week. £500k a week! That's £1 million in 2 weeks! That's £26m a year, and that's excluding any bonuses!!

(10-19-2010, 05:20 PM)azerty link Wrote: Rooney is just too mutch overrated ....  cmon £100mil for rooney ?  £40mil MAX