People have been PMing and riding my ass about this.

[xBlueXFoxx]

non registered players should spawn at the sex shop like it was before it was changed... imo

was camped too much.

Why not just spawn the new ones on the ship? The place where they pick their character.

Read above.

OHAI LVP
[me=xBlueXFoxx]gets off ship[/me]
[me=xBlueXFoxx] boom-boom ded.[/me]
[me=faggot]G37 0N MY LVL S0N /orgasm[/me]
OBAI LVP.

and what-not.

@BlueFox, I think that I was one of the guys that talked to you about this on IRC or something, but it was some time ago. I'm not quite sure, but I guess that Holden had talked about this too even before me.

Anyways @estore*, I believe if we had some custom mapped spawn zones only for non-registered and non-regulars players, we would be attracting/receiving better new people. Most of servers with a high player count has similar mapped areas.

However, I disagree, there's no need to go out of the way making a newfag spawn for newfags. Would be cool to have different spawns I guess, or more that is, the current ones get old.

[Tpimp]

was camped too much.

So is the ship, no one's complaining about that though.

That's the worst solution if you ask me. When they were there, they got killed right away. The spawning seems to fail quite a bit now too though. People spawn at the elevators a lot and then get killed by people either waiting for them or by people fighting a bit closer to ship.

I don't think the spawns are too far, they're all in LV. It literally takes 2 maybe 3 minutes to drive around LV. So going through should be equally fast (no straight road but less distance). And again, if you would go to a server, spawn and get attacked by some gangmembers at once, would you like it? Sure, you probably wouldn't leave, but newer people might.

Well let's maybe try another area.

[xBlueXFoxx]

So is the ship, no one's complaining about that though.

Well let's maybe try another area.

If you're going to post an idea please explain how it's going to work, what improvements it will make, and possible flaws it may have. As I see it, there will be pricks that are going to camp the noob spawn just because they can.

[Tpimp]

I didn't post an idea.

[Pedro]

Meh, yeah, that's actually true, 'old' people are going to camp at wherever you make new players respawn and it might obviously not be good at all.

Alright so I got another idea: I've talked before about mapping a special interior/room which would have 2 doors and the player would decide which one he/she prefers. (if you don't know what I'm talking about at all click here.) One door would lead him/her to one virtual world with stunt stuff, while the other one would make him/her spawn at the normal LVP. This idea wasn't so well accepted, because as BlueFox had mentioned, it would separate too much the community.(which I completely agreed)

There clearly are, at least, 3 different areas in LVP that have been/are beeing improved: Stunt; Race and Death-Match. The problem with having only one or two mapped areas to make new people spawn, as was said before, is that people will just be constantly killed because other people will be camping there for it.

My new idea is actually pretty similar to the one that I just described above, but now everyone would spawn at the main world, exactly at LV. So again they first should spawn at a mapped interior/room, it should be a beauty room, attractive, bla, bla...but now with some more doors and punching should be disable since we don't want people to fight there, but choose what they want to then start actually playing.

There could exist for example 4 doors:

• If he/she goes to the first door, that person would spawn normally at LV and be automatically signed up for a race or start a new one if no one had started a race at that moment. It could be a random race or we should see which ones are easier, but still cool, to a new SA:MP player enjoy.
  
  
• To the second door would happen something similar to the first, but this time it would be for DM minigames.
  
  
• To the third door, if we're talking about stunt, he/she should spawn with a car at the beginning of some stunt road or teleport them to the /map areas, but in this case some people may not understand that there is a /leave command and they might be stuck, alone and obviously /q. If you make it show a permanent message telling "Use /leave to come back to the main world" or something like that, there might be no problems.
  
• Finally the fourth door would be for people who already know LVP and might just want to drive around or play any other minigames like derbies etc etc... or make it for "gangs", it's meant for people who wants to fight in the streets yo!
  Basically people would spawn normally as it is right now.
  

[Kase]

Pedro's idea is nice, but it would complicate things a bit too much imo.

[xBlueXFoxx]

2 worlds, no-go.