Haze and his granade rules

[Rainedrop]

I was there also at the Gang Base.

Whilest getting pwned, I noticed that there was only one or maybe two people throwing grenades. So don't act like it was several because that's exaggerating. The rest were actually using guns, me being one of them. I was shooting at both HaZe and chris and they were not losing any health.

My target would get the green arrow thingie to tell me that I have locked on the target and I shoot. I shoot several times actually, and NO health loss whatsoever the entire time. Last night was the first night we used grenades as a distraction tactic while others were shooting.

It's war. It's strategizing. Not everyone was on the roof. Half on roof half on ground. (So tell it right if yer gonna tell it, okay?) One or two throwing grenades. Some were testing HaZes health loss and/or lack thereof.  From what I see, the guy is blatantly, cheating. It's like he's in pause or something while still being able to shoot? If its not a cheat of somekind then what is it? If its "lag" then he would still lose health just not as quick, but he would at least, finally die.  I think he took off the cheat for a few seconds and then did actually die one time. I guess so it's not so obviouse. I'm sorry but it is. Anyway, whatever. Somethings not right there. I think it should be looked into, at least.

Secondly, the lame cowardly heli killers practically come by two's whenever we own the base. Something seriously needs to be done about that.

Basically, I think it was an experiment on how to best defend the GB. Especially when health cheaters and heli killers invade. People experiment and people learn. It's not a big deal.

It's a game. Simply remove the grenades if it's going to cause people to whine like little girls. Personally, I hate them anyway. And I'm not a good nade thrower, so I use a gun. Something I can actually lock on a target with. Snipering is fun and takes some aiming skill and I find more enjoyment in that.  But see, before a war you don't say... "Waaa don't use grenades on meh, plz waa waa waa, you big meanie head".  On the otherhand do actual gangs even really use grenades? Why are they even in the game? Everytime someone uses them five people cry, which causes other people who aren't even around them to cry (in main chat), then a "nade" debate ensues and it gets nasty and someone loses an eye or something, and then the paramedics are called and then we have to call their mommies and its just a vicious cycle.      (lol)

Anyway, defending the base is fun, and I defend it long after we've lost it. I don't care that I die a lot, because its not a big deal. It's fun. Two nights a go I was teleporting to one of the people (who won the base after us) in a heli, whilst I was in a car. That was really fun. The heli driver thought it was funny and told me about /cardive. So I did that a few times. It was fun. And I would arrive at the base in different ways. I'd ramp in with a Semitruck and they were like, lol you're as crazy as we are...and then proceed to kill me. LOL They're like your funny and crazy like us but u must die now. Anyway, whatever. It's just a game, guys. People are beginning to be a little to uptight about it. And I don't even care about the cheaters. Its just like if your going to cheat dont whine about grenades. That's the way I look at it.

/rant
/ramble

/whatever

[BoogerJay]

I was there also at the Gang Base.

Whilest getting pwned, I noticed that there was only one or maybe two people throwing grenades. So don't act like it was several because that's exaggerating. The rest were actually using guns, me being one of them. I was shooting at both HaZe and chris and they were not losing any health.


BoogerJay: Maby because of the lag from the granades?


My target would get the green arrow thingie to tell me that I have locked on the target and I shoot. I shoot several times actually, and NO health loss whatsoever the entire time. Last night was the first night we used grenades as a distraction tactic while others were shooting.

BoogerJay:I was watching both Chris and HaZe and I could tell you now, that it seemed they were playing legit... I got reports of HaZe not loosing health. As I looks at HaZe, on my screen he was loosing health...

It's war. It's strategizing. Not everyone was on the roof. Half on roof half on ground. BoogerJay: So, a strategy is throwing grenades everywhere to spam the Gang Base? Thats Grade [b]A strategy.[/b] (So tell it right if yer gonna tell it, okay?) One or two throwing grenades. Some were testing HaZes health loss and/or lack thereof.  From what I see, the guy is blatantly, cheating. It's like he's in pause or something while still being able to shoot? If its not a cheat of somekind then what is it? If its "lag" then he would still lose health just not as quick, but he would at least, finally die.  I think he took off the cheat for a few seconds and then did actually die one time. I guess so it's not so obviouse. I'm sorry but it is. Anyway, whatever. Somethings not right there. I think it should be looked into, at least.

Secondly, the lame cowardly heli killers practically come by two's whenever we own the base. Something seriously needs to be done about that.

Basically, I think it was an experiment on how to best defend the GB. Especially when health cheaters and heli killers invade. People experiment and people learn. It's not a big deal.

It's a game. Simply remove the grenades if it's going to cause people to whine like little girls. Personally, I hate them anyway. And I'm not a good nade thrower, so I use a gun. Something I can actually lock on a target with. Snipering is fun and takes some aiming skill and I find more enjoyment in that.  But see, before a war you don't say... "Waaa don't use grenades on meh, plz waa waa waa, you big meanie head".  On the otherhand do actual gangs even really use grenades? Why are they even in the game? Everytime someone uses them five people cry, which causes other people who aren't even around them to cry (in main chat), then a "nade" debate ensues and it gets nasty and someone loses an eye or something, and then the paramedics are called and then we have to call their mommies and its just a vicious cycle.      (lol)

Anyway, defending the base is fun, and I defend it long after we've lost it. I don't care that I die a lot, because its not a big deal. It's fun. Two nights a go I was teleporting to one of the people (who won the base after us) in a heli, whilst I was in a car. That was really fun. The heli driver thought it was funny and told me about /cardive. So I did that a few times. It was fun. And I would arrive at the base in different ways. I'd ramp in with a Semitruck and they were like, lol you're as crazy as we are...and then proceed to kill me. LOL They're like your funny and crazy like us but u must die now. Anyway, whatever. It's just a game, guys. People are beginning to be a little to uptight about it. And I don't even care about the cheaters. Its just like if your going to cheat dont whine about grenades. That's the way I look at it.

/rant
/ramble

/whatever

I quoted some things in your paragraph that I would like to protest/be looked at.

[Rainedrop]

Jeez, you are exaggerating the grenade throwing a bit. Oh and there were not people waiting to come in. The ones that got close to the base didn't hesitate even with the few grenades. So c'mon seriously stop exaggerating.

It wasn't even as bad as your trying to make it out to be. I was freakin down there near where the grenades were falling.  So I know how it was. I don't even know what "spamming the gangbase" means. It wasn't NEAR enough grenades to cause any lag. I personally didnt have any lag from a few grenades. A person was throwing one. One would go off then theyd throw again. I don't know we didnt mess with them much before last night. They were trying something new I think. I wasn't one of the throwers. Like I said, if its going to cause so much cryin. Remove them. rofl.

This is the issue you are trying to detract from.

BoogerJay:I was watching both Chris and HaZe and I could tell you now, that it seemed they were playing legit... I got reports of HaZe not loosing health. As I looks at HaZe, on my screen he was loosing health...

Okay so not just me thinks something is fishy, then?  By your own admission OTHERs were reporting. I wasn't even one of the ones who reported that, until I posted in this topic. On your screen he was losing health? Okay then, if he was losing health on your screen. Did he eventually die?? because on my screen he didn't die.  I dunno what does your magical screen show?

You know what, forget it. I see how it is.


Nevermind. lol.

Really though, I don't even care about it. I don't care about the cheaters. What I am sick of is the constant whining. I mean mygod the constant discrimination against new players. The constant misuse of the term "noob" towards good players who follow the rules and are just there to have fun, you know. Its just so... well icky. Couldn't think of anything else to call it. If you kill a "old timer" you are called a "noob" and ridiculed, but its okay if they kill you because then you are called a "noob" with no skill. Its insanely rediculous. Why not give new players a chance?

Eh, Im wasting too much time trying to sort this out with...

Nevermind.

Just wanted to play the game and have fun like most of us newbies. I like this server and most of the people on it.

Anyway, whatever. Jeez.

[Maka]

Hello? Your calling HaZe a health cheater  Jesus christ..

Last night was the first night we used grenades as a distraction tactic while others were shooting.

Some were testing HaZe's health loss and/or lack thereof.  From what I see, the guy is blatantly, cheating. It's like he's in pause or something while still being able to shoot? If its not a cheat of somekind then what is it? If its "lag" then he would still lose health just not as quick, but he would at least, finally die.  I think he took off the cheat for a few seconds and then did actually die one time. I guess so it's not so obviouse. I'm sorry but it is. Anyway, whatever. Somethings not right there. I think it should be looked into, at least.

Secondly, the lame cowardly heli killers practically come by two's whenever we own the base. Something seriously needs to be done about that.

Basically, I think it was an experiment on how to best defend the GB. Especially when health cheaters and heli killers invade. People experiment and people learn. It's not a big deal.

And I don't even care about the cheaters. Its just like if your going to cheat dont whine about grenades. That's the way I look at it.

/rant
/ramble

/whatever

1. Your calling someone a Cheater just because U can't beat his ass. Kinda pathetic I have to say. So thats noobish. Check out every nooby player, they get beaten in a 1on1, or whatever, and start saying: Noob, Cheater, turn of the health hacks, etc etc. Thats just bullshit! Are U that sure he cheats? Well then take the guts to teleport, or drive to him and do a Second test, Is the problem the same again, just do /report (His Id) (The Persumed cheat). Even for that people, its sometimes too hard 

2. First time U used grenades? Omfg. Ever since LVP went official New gangs have come (Not gunna put any names) and allways used Grenades, and Heli's just to win. U can't deny it cause its true. It just is.

C'mon, U know why HaZe laggs? I fought him, he IS hittable. Its because of the server that is laggy, and its just that U don't know the hitbox. But calling him a cheater is over the top, If he had cheated, he would've been clanless forever. HaZe is one of the BEST SA:MP players I know.

Greetz.

Sorry, but calling people cheaters cause of that is just over the top.

[Rainedrop]

Hello? Your calling HaZe a health cheater   Jesus christ..

1. Your calling someone a Cheater just because U can't beat his ass. Kinda pathetic I have to say. So thats noobish. Check out every nooby player, they get beaten in a 1on1, or whatever, and start saying: Noob, Cheater, turn of the health hacks, etc etc. Thats just bullshit! Are U that sure he cheats? Well then take the guts to teleport, or drive to him and do a Second test, Is the problem the same again, just do /report (His Id) (The Persumed cheat). Even for that people, its sometimes too hard LOL! I did exactly that. I teleported to him. Got just out of punching distance and was locked on target and was shooting repeatedly. No health loss. Sorry but cmon. I've had no problem with other players and ones I take the time to lock on, I eventually kill. He lost NO blood whatsoever, after several hits. You'd see the lil blood splatter, so you [b]know he is hit,  but the health bar remained the same. It didn't go down after the supposed lag was over. AND not just I was shooting him. Cmon several people were shooting the guy and the bar did not go down. You have to understand how that looks and be understanding of the fact that people would question it. You can't get mad at people who are behaving naturally when something isn't right.[/b]

2. First time U used grenades? Omfg. Ever since LVP went official New gangs have come (Not gunna put any names) and allways used Grenades, and Heli's just to win. U can't deny it cause its true. It just is. Not denying that at all. I'm sure they do. But the times [b]WE were there at the base, is only what I am talkin bout. WE hardly used them before last night. That I personally saw.[/b]

C'mon, U know why HaZe laggs? I fought him, he IS hittable. Who would cheat when a Mod is testing them? duh. Its because of the server that is laggy, and its just that U don't know the hitbox. But calling him a cheater is over the top, If he had cheated, he would've been clanless forever. Perhaps he's just good at not getting caught by certain people? HaZe is one of the BEST SA:MP players I know.  Great. So he earned brownie points to get a bit of favortisim. Hon, I honestly don't care, really. All I know what I witnessed myself. Up close and personal. And believe me, I teleported many times and got up close enough to know somethin aint right. So have others. It's not just me who sees it. Not sure what to tell you. Maybe he changed because hes pissed off about all us "noobs" on his server? It's possible, is it not? Is he above cheating somehow? Whatever, its pointless. .


Greetz.

Sorry, but calling people cheaters cause of that is just over the top.

Seriously, not even worth my time and its obviously pointless. I'm done. Thank you anyway. I get it. Trust me I get it.

Neverfreakinmind. I'm done.

[BoogerJay]

[modbreak]Useless flame[/modbreak]

[Rainedrop]

ROFL thats cute. 

Though I did say I didn't really care, and that it wasn't a big deal to me personally.

[BoogerJay]

Well, It wasen't really against just you. But I was the one getting blamed for the whole situation and its gets frustrating 


But, we'll drop it 

[Doc_Holiday]

I call BS on you Booger, we 10 people, were all shooting at haze and nothing was going on, which was why we switched to nades.

I guess haze's excuse that the TEN of us were desynced, but HE was okay is how things go around here.

I hear this whine "get down and fight like a 'man' (LOL) well why can't we squad up and defend the base as we were?  why can't they get a bigger squad to kill us instead of relying on hacks or lag or whatever the heck it was they were using.

How is it TEN of us are wrong and those TWO are right?

So far all you've done is give excuses as to why you abused your moderator and administrator privileges and you have NOT explained what excuse you have for threatening TEN people with kick because they are using EVERYTHING at their disposal FAILING to stop TWO of YOUR FRIENDS!!

Step Up!

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  Now that we've come to this forum with a legitimate complaint we cannot seem to be able to get an administrators attention regarding cheaters, or +points.

  Seriously, what's going on here?

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tomozj: Posts merged.

[Kramer]

I've experienced things like this before.  Keep on shooting, kpew kpew, all at the target and the target takes no damage while you keep on unloading a payload of ammo on the target.  I usually pass it off as lag, but sometimes it might be cheating. Especially if you keep firing at the target at pointblank for around 5 minutes. Then you'd know its cheating.