12-27-2009, 11:12 AM
...compared to Las Venturas...
I never got how to speak with admins so you get understood. Honestly. If u know how tell me.
What you guys think about making a mistake and never having the chance to correct it ?
Here's our overly dramatic story:
My friend is dumb and turned on some mod to see what it's like to play that way, so he got permanent ban for cheating. He realized his mistake and what that rule actually meant after getting banned.
And admins here would rather have luckily unaware of the rules people who never made a mistake than users who got to know the rules through their experience and understand them and don't intend to repeat their mistake.
Favorite lines in bold to get your attention - I hope you read the entire log and tell me If I'm being an ass or the guy has a bad day.
11:03:00 <Shinobi_BG> hey man
11:03:15 <Failtop> The answer is, has been, and always will be no.
11:03:22 <Failtop> No second chances to cheaters.
11:03:23 <Shinobi_BG> I was told we should suck your dick
11:03:24 <Shinobi_BG>
11:03:28 <Failtop> You should.
11:03:32 <Failtop> Come fly up to Boston
11:03:35 <Shinobi_BG> for unban
11:03:35 <Failtop> I'll meet you at Logan.
11:03:39 <Shinobi_BG> hahahah
11:03:40 <Failtop> Then we'll talk about an unban.
11:03:48 <Shinobi_BG> wow it's true that we like the server alot
11:03:49 <Shinobi_BG> but...
11:03:50 <Shinobi_BG> damn
11:04:08 <Failtop> You're on his IP?
11:04:13 <Shinobi_BG> ?
11:04:15 <Shinobi_BG> no
11:04:22 <Shinobi_BG> I'm speaking on his behalf
11:04:24 <Failtop> Then stop worrying about it.
11:04:24 <Shinobi_BG> he's too ashamed
11:04:26 <Failtop> You shouldn't be/
11:04:27 <Shinobi_BG> from his mistake
11:04:28 <Shinobi_BG> :p
11:04:30 <Failtop> Because he's the only one.
11:04:34 <Failtop> Doesn't matter what the fuck you say
11:04:38 <Failtop> friends don't speak for others here.
11:04:44 <Failtop> He's made three appeals, all spam
11:04:46 <Failtop> all denied.
11:04:49 <Shinobi_BG> his english isn't good
11:04:50 <Failtop> He's not getting a second chance
11:04:54 <Failtop> ... Yeah it is.
11:04:59 <Failtop> Stop making up bullshit
11:04:59 <Shinobi_BG> thats why I'm speaking with you
11:05:03 <Failtop> it's a quick way to get on my bad side.
11:05:07 <Failtop> How old are you
11:05:12 <Shinobi_BG> 24
11:05:17 <Failtop> That's bullshit.
11:05:24 <Failtop> In any sense
11:05:27 <Failtop> He's not getting an unban
11:05:31 <Shinobi_BG> wanna see my facebook ?
11:05:36 <Failtop> If you bother another crew member with his ban, I'll make sure you'll get banned.
11:05:42 <Failtop> Oh, because people can't lie on their Facebooks, right?
11:05:44 <Failtop> you idiot
11:05:48 <Shinobi_BG> wow
11:05:55 <Failtop> Now enough.
[b]11:05:56 <Failtop> Get lost.
11:05:59 <Failtop> He's not getting unbanned
11:06:00 <Failtop> deal with it.[/b]
11:06:05 <Shinobi_BG> wow
11:06:06 <Shinobi_BG> damn
11:06:12 <Shinobi_BG> I though admins care about users
11:06:23 <Failtop> we do
11:06:25 <Shinobi_BG> epsecialy honestmistakes and misunderstandings
11:06:25 <Failtop> not cheaters, though
11:06:25 <Failtop> cheaters are abusers.
11:06:30 <Failtop> stop being an idiot
11:06:33 <Failtop> seriously
11:06:33 <Shinobi_BG> I understand that
11:06:44 <Shinobi_BG> but he didn't know what he was doing
11:06:45 <Failtop> We didn't make a misunderstanding
11:06:51 <Failtop> Modifications like CLEO are known cheats
11:06:51 <Shinobi_BG> you didn't he did
11:06:54 <Failtop> he did know what he was doing
11:06:58 <Failtop> he even admitted it
11:07:01 <Failtop> now shut up and stop lying
11:07:05 <Failtop> Get out of my PM.
11:07:05 <Shinobi_BG> but he didn't know that !?
11:07:09 <Failtop> Yeah he did.
11:07:23 <Shinobi_BG> oh man wow
11:07:28 <Shinobi_BG> you're tougher than I thought
11:07:29 <Failtop> Keep saying "wow"
11:07:32 <Failtop> Excuse me?
11:07:40 <Failtop> All crew members are like this, pal
11:07:46 <Failtop> We're not a pussy server that allows cheaters to return
11:08:08 <Shinobi_BG> you actualy seem like a cool server
11:08:09 <Failtop> The servers you say allow second chances are unsuccessful servers who don't know how to moderate.
11:08:12 <Shinobi_BG> that makes users happy
11:08:14 <Failtop> Because we are.
11:08:24 <Failtop> Stop pretending you know what's good for LVP
11:08:32 <Shinobi_BG> yes
11:08:34 <Shinobi_BG> having cool players
11:08:36 <Shinobi_BG> who join often
11:08:38 <Shinobi_BG> and have a great time
11:08:39 <Shinobi_BG> with others
11:08:46 <Shinobi_BG> and if U can't handle one mistake
11:08:51 <Shinobi_BG> and I swear on my cock that he made a mistake
11:08:58 <Shinobi_BG> without intending
11:08:58 <Failtop> Are you actually trying to guilt trip me?
11:09:00 <Failtop> Are you actually trying to guilt trip me?
11:09:02 <Shinobi_BG> because he's stupid
11:09:04 <Failtop> Are you actually trying to guilt trip me? <
11:09:08 <Failtop> You pathetic moron.
11:09:11 <Failtop> Seriously.
11:09:11 <Shinobi_BG> I'm actually trying to get my friend unbanned
11:09:14 <Shinobi_BG> because we like playing
11:09:15 <Failtop> HE
11:09:16 <Failtop> IS
11:09:17 <Failtop> NOT
11:09:18 <Failtop> GOING
11:09:18 <Failtop> TO
11:09:22 <Failtop> Got it?
11:09:28 <Failtop> He cheated. Lifetime ban.
11:09:29 <Failtop> Always & Forever.
11:09:32 <Shinobi_BG> omg
11:09:32 <Failtop> Never again will he play.
11:09:43 <Failtop> THERE IS NOT A SECOND CHANCE POLICY FOR CHEATERS
11:09:46 <Failtop> WELCOME TO FAIR SERVERS.
11:11:24 <Failtop> Right now it's 4:00AM. I'm seriously not in the mood to deal with you and your wannabe fight the system attitude
11:11:35 <Failtop> You will not get any crew member to side with you
11:11:45 <Failtop> If you continue to bother and harass us, as I said, I will make sure you don't see LVP again either.
11:11:51 <Shinobi_BG> damn amn I'll talk to you some other day
11:11:54 <Shinobi_BG> you seem pissed
11:11:56 <Failtop> No you won't.
11:11:58 <Failtop> I'm not.
11:12:00 <Failtop> You're just an idiot.
11:12:04 <Failtop> This is how I converse with idiots.
11:12:04 <Shinobi_BG> like In a major bad mood
11:12:14 <Failtop> I'm in a bad mood? Not really.
11:12:17 <Failtop> Lying in bed right now
11:12:20 <Failtop> relaxing, talking to a friend
11:12:27 <Failtop> over TeamSpeak*
11:12:33 <Failtop> Nah, not in a bad mood at all
11:12:42 <Failtop> My persona of Failtop, however, is.
11:12:49 <Failtop> Very sexy, if I do say so myself.
11:12:59 <Failtop> Let me be clear with you, by the way
11:13:02 <Failtop> if you fly up to Boston
11:13:05 <Failtop> suck my dick
11:13:08 <Failtop> I will unban your friend
11:13:10 <Shinobi_BG> hahahahaha
11:13:25 <Shinobi_BG> how sexy exactly are you ?
11:13:28 <Failtop> I have a sense of humor, I'm a good guy
11:13:36 <Failtop> but don't try defending shit you can't defend
11:14:00 <Shinobi_BG> I'd defend friends anytime for any reason
11:14:12 <Failtop> Over a video game server?
11:14:14 <Shinobi_BG> I didn't me to be rude
11:14:15 <Failtop> That's pathetic.
11:14:16 <Shinobi_BG> or annoy you
11:14:20 <Failtop> neither did I
11:14:25 <Shinobi_BG> I know what it's like being admin
11:14:27 <Failtop> I simply come off as a douchebag
11:14:35 <Failtop> It's honestly not that hard.
11:14:53 <Failtop> Because of how blunt I am with people they usually back off and accept their punishment
11:14:58 <Failtop> You, on the other hand, aren't that smart.
11:15:08 <Shinobi_BG> I don't accept punishment at all
11:15:11 <Shinobi_BG> since I was a kid
11:15:15 <Shinobi_BG> :p
11:15:25 <Failtop> That must suck in the real world.
11:15:25 <Shinobi_BG> it's a flaw
11:15:29 <Shinobi_BG> that people enjoy actualy
11:15:43 <Shinobi_BG> I don't believe in punishment but free will
11:15:46 <Shinobi_BG> and reason
11:15:49 <Shinobi_BG> and understanding each other
11:16:07 <Failtop> You're a fucking walking clich?
11:16:24 <Failtop> bring that poetic garbage to someone else, please.
11:16:46 <Shinobi_BG> you can definitely use some poetic shit in your life
11:16:58 <Shinobi_BG> u do seem like a non-caring guy
11:17:05 <Shinobi_BG> and I'm trying so hard not to offend you
11:17:13 <Shinobi_BG> and be nice to the admin
11:17:13 <Failtop> You can't offend me.
11:17:16 <Failtop> it's the Internet
11:17:23 <Failtop> and even if you do, it won't get you anywhere
11:17:25 <Failtop> nor will even talking to me.
11:17:30 <Failtop> He's not getting unbanned and you need to deal with that fact.
11:17:34 <Failtop> it's not something you can change
11:17:37 <Failtop> it's not something you can alter
11:17:42 <Failtop> it's a fucking dead, cold, real fact.
11:18:03 <Shinobi_BG> so basicly if you're a good guy and a good admin for more than a month
11:18:19 <Shinobi_BG> and you're being asshole for 1 conversation
11:18:23 <Shinobi_BG> you should get banned forever
11:18:30 <Shinobi_BG> and lose your friends and accept it without question
11:18:35 <Shinobi_BG> and get the fuck out and never be seen again ?
11:18:39 <Failtop> I don't follow your logic.
11:18:56 <Failtop> He wasn't an asshole for a conversation, nor was he ever an admin
11:19:02 <Failtop> he was far from a good player, too
11:19:08 <Failtop> flaming and being disrespectful constantly
11:19:12 <Failtop> then he decided to cheat
11:19:25 <Failtop> Seriously, we don't care how much your eCare is for this guy
11:19:32 <Failtop> He's not getting unbanned.
11:19:44 <Shinobi_BG> you didn't follow my logic
11:20:03 <Shinobi_BG> if I post our assholeconversaion and you get banned would it be fair - for you to stay that way forever and deal with it ?
11:20:04 <Failtop> Because there isn't any.
11:20:10 <Failtop>
11:20:11 <Shinobi_BG> I'm not gonna do that
11:20:14 <Failtop> Post it.
11:20:14 <Shinobi_BG> but jsut asking
11:20:16 <Failtop> see what happens
11:20:16 <Failtop> \o
11:20:19 <Failtop> I keep logs too
11:20:23 <Shinobi_BG> you ban everyone ?
11:20:24 <Failtop> and all you've been is a douche
11:20:26 <Failtop> No
11:20:40 <Failtop> well
11:20:47 <Failtop> I have more bans/kicks than any other crew member
11:20:56 <Shinobi_BG> fine this is going nowhere and getting on my nerve as well as on yours
11:21:05 <Failtop> so you'll give up and accept reality already?
11:21:05 <Shinobi_BG> I'm sorry you jsut don't give a fuck about your users
11:21:08 <Failtop> Or will you take it farther?
11:21:11 <Failtop> We do care
11:21:13 <Failtop> But not about cheaters.
11:21:15 <Failtop> There's a difference
11:21:17 <Failtop> Learn it.
11:21:30 <Shinobi_BG> he's not a cheater but a dumb guy who epxerimented with his game
11:21:33 <Failtop> Maybe he should tell you about his spam, his disrespect, his flaming.
11:21:37 <Shinobi_BG> in a bad way he didn't know about
11:21:42 <Failtop> YEAH HE DID
11:21:47 <Failtop> one sec, I'll bring up the PM he gave me
11:22:00 <Shinobi_BG> hahah omg I can imagine
11:22:04 <Failtop> "Whats so bad have idone so i cant be unbanned.I just downloaded some CLEO mods and decided to play online to see whats goingon ,some dude started shooting at me i didnt lose health and i got banned i havent killed nobody plz unbann me tomorow"
11:22:14 <Failtop> It's obvious he knew what it did.
11:22:17 <Failtop> He admitted to it.
11:22:25 <Failtop> And it is in the rules that modifications such as those = cheats
11:22:27 <Failtop> cheats = lifetime ban
11:22:31 <Failtop> if he didn't read the rules, it's his own fault
11:22:44 <Failtop> we at Las Venturas Playground do not take any responsibility if you don't read the rules
11:22:55 <Failtop> Once you login, EVERY TIME YOU LOGIN, you accept the rules
11:23:02 <Failtop> he decided to not follow and he was punished.
11:23:11 <Failtop> We are in our full right to deny him access to our server because of this
11:23:34 <Shinobi_BG> and if this shit never happens again ?
11:23:44 <Failtop> Once again
11:23:47 <Failtop> Lifetime ban <
11:23:52 <Failtop> No second chances.
11:23:54 <Failtop> Do you even fucking read?
11:23:59 <Failtop> I'm done with you.
11:24:03 <Shinobi_BG> this is sparta right
11:24:04 <Shinobi_BG> fine
11:24:10 <Failtop> It is Sparta.
11:24:25 <Failtop> The other crew member was trying to be nice
11:24:27 <Failtop> You decided to see me
11:24:32 <Shinobi_BG> I like sparta but I definitel don't enjoy rules based on assholness
11:24:37 <Failtop> LOL
11:24:41 <Failtop> Rules that disallow cheating?
11:24:45 <Failtop> My God, how assholeish!
11:24:51 <Shinobi_BG> no rules that don't allowe second chances
11:24:52 <Failtop> Go on another server if you don't like our rules.
11:25:06 <Failtop> everything BESIDES cheating = second chance
11:25:14 <Failtop> cheating is basically like first degree murder in real life
11:25:17 <Failtop> you don't get a fucking second chance
11:25:19 <Failtop> you're just gone.
11:25:26 <Failtop> now move along and have a swell day
11:25:28 <Failtop> because I'm off
11:26:14 <Shinobi_BG> ok man, sorry for annoying you
11:26:25 <Shinobi_BG> let's hope you never find a dead body around you and go to prison for life for it
11:26:54 <Shinobi_BG> making that kind of mistake
11:27:14 <Shinobi_BG> bye
I hope other players learn from our mistake.
I'll quit "Guild tripping you" do be cool guys and care for your users. Tell me I don't make sense. I'm not trying to be an ass really ! I don't mean to offend you or annoy you - I wanna play and have a good time.
I got banned too.
I never got how to speak with admins so you get understood. Honestly. If u know how tell me.
What you guys think about making a mistake and never having the chance to correct it ?
Here's our overly dramatic story:
My friend is dumb and turned on some mod to see what it's like to play that way, so he got permanent ban for cheating. He realized his mistake and what that rule actually meant after getting banned.
And admins here would rather have luckily unaware of the rules people who never made a mistake than users who got to know the rules through their experience and understand them and don't intend to repeat their mistake.
Favorite lines in bold to get your attention - I hope you read the entire log and tell me If I'm being an ass or the guy has a bad day.
11:03:00 <Shinobi_BG> hey man
11:03:15 <Failtop> The answer is, has been, and always will be no.
11:03:22 <Failtop> No second chances to cheaters.
11:03:23 <Shinobi_BG> I was told we should suck your dick
11:03:24 <Shinobi_BG>
11:03:28 <Failtop> You should.
11:03:32 <Failtop> Come fly up to Boston
11:03:35 <Shinobi_BG> for unban
11:03:35 <Failtop> I'll meet you at Logan.
11:03:39 <Shinobi_BG> hahahah
11:03:40 <Failtop> Then we'll talk about an unban.
11:03:48 <Shinobi_BG> wow it's true that we like the server alot
11:03:49 <Shinobi_BG> but...
11:03:50 <Shinobi_BG> damn
11:04:08 <Failtop> You're on his IP?
11:04:13 <Shinobi_BG> ?
11:04:15 <Shinobi_BG> no
11:04:22 <Shinobi_BG> I'm speaking on his behalf
11:04:24 <Failtop> Then stop worrying about it.
11:04:24 <Shinobi_BG> he's too ashamed
11:04:26 <Failtop> You shouldn't be/
11:04:27 <Shinobi_BG> from his mistake
11:04:28 <Shinobi_BG> :p
11:04:30 <Failtop> Because he's the only one.
11:04:34 <Failtop> Doesn't matter what the fuck you say
11:04:38 <Failtop> friends don't speak for others here.
11:04:44 <Failtop> He's made three appeals, all spam
11:04:46 <Failtop> all denied.
11:04:49 <Shinobi_BG> his english isn't good
11:04:50 <Failtop> He's not getting a second chance
11:04:54 <Failtop> ... Yeah it is.
11:04:59 <Failtop> Stop making up bullshit
11:04:59 <Shinobi_BG> thats why I'm speaking with you
11:05:03 <Failtop> it's a quick way to get on my bad side.
11:05:07 <Failtop> How old are you
11:05:12 <Shinobi_BG> 24
11:05:17 <Failtop> That's bullshit.
11:05:24 <Failtop> In any sense
11:05:27 <Failtop> He's not getting an unban
11:05:31 <Shinobi_BG> wanna see my facebook ?
11:05:36 <Failtop> If you bother another crew member with his ban, I'll make sure you'll get banned.
11:05:42 <Failtop> Oh, because people can't lie on their Facebooks, right?
11:05:44 <Failtop> you idiot
11:05:48 <Shinobi_BG> wow
11:05:55 <Failtop> Now enough.
[b]11:05:56 <Failtop> Get lost.
11:05:59 <Failtop> He's not getting unbanned
11:06:00 <Failtop> deal with it.[/b]
11:06:05 <Shinobi_BG> wow
11:06:06 <Shinobi_BG> damn
11:06:12 <Shinobi_BG> I though admins care about users
11:06:23 <Failtop> we do
11:06:25 <Shinobi_BG> epsecialy honestmistakes and misunderstandings
11:06:25 <Failtop> not cheaters, though
11:06:25 <Failtop> cheaters are abusers.
11:06:30 <Failtop> stop being an idiot
11:06:33 <Failtop> seriously
11:06:33 <Shinobi_BG> I understand that
11:06:44 <Shinobi_BG> but he didn't know what he was doing
11:06:45 <Failtop> We didn't make a misunderstanding
11:06:51 <Failtop> Modifications like CLEO are known cheats
11:06:51 <Shinobi_BG> you didn't he did
11:06:54 <Failtop> he did know what he was doing
11:06:58 <Failtop> he even admitted it
11:07:01 <Failtop> now shut up and stop lying
11:07:05 <Failtop> Get out of my PM.
11:07:05 <Shinobi_BG> but he didn't know that !?
11:07:09 <Failtop> Yeah he did.
11:07:23 <Shinobi_BG> oh man wow
11:07:28 <Shinobi_BG> you're tougher than I thought
11:07:29 <Failtop> Keep saying "wow"
11:07:32 <Failtop> Excuse me?
11:07:40 <Failtop> All crew members are like this, pal
11:07:46 <Failtop> We're not a pussy server that allows cheaters to return
11:08:08 <Shinobi_BG> you actualy seem like a cool server
11:08:09 <Failtop> The servers you say allow second chances are unsuccessful servers who don't know how to moderate.
11:08:12 <Shinobi_BG> that makes users happy
11:08:14 <Failtop> Because we are.
11:08:24 <Failtop> Stop pretending you know what's good for LVP
11:08:32 <Shinobi_BG> yes
11:08:34 <Shinobi_BG> having cool players
11:08:36 <Shinobi_BG> who join often
11:08:38 <Shinobi_BG> and have a great time
11:08:39 <Shinobi_BG> with others
11:08:46 <Shinobi_BG> and if U can't handle one mistake
11:08:51 <Shinobi_BG> and I swear on my cock that he made a mistake
11:08:58 <Shinobi_BG> without intending
11:08:58 <Failtop> Are you actually trying to guilt trip me?
11:09:00 <Failtop> Are you actually trying to guilt trip me?
11:09:02 <Shinobi_BG> because he's stupid
11:09:04 <Failtop> Are you actually trying to guilt trip me? <
11:09:08 <Failtop> You pathetic moron.
11:09:11 <Failtop> Seriously.
11:09:11 <Shinobi_BG> I'm actually trying to get my friend unbanned
11:09:14 <Shinobi_BG> because we like playing
11:09:15 <Failtop> HE
11:09:16 <Failtop> IS
11:09:17 <Failtop> NOT
11:09:18 <Failtop> GOING
11:09:18 <Failtop> TO
11:09:22 <Failtop> Got it?
11:09:28 <Failtop> He cheated. Lifetime ban.
11:09:29 <Failtop> Always & Forever.
11:09:32 <Shinobi_BG> omg
11:09:32 <Failtop> Never again will he play.
11:09:43 <Failtop> THERE IS NOT A SECOND CHANCE POLICY FOR CHEATERS
11:09:46 <Failtop> WELCOME TO FAIR SERVERS.
11:11:24 <Failtop> Right now it's 4:00AM. I'm seriously not in the mood to deal with you and your wannabe fight the system attitude
11:11:35 <Failtop> You will not get any crew member to side with you
11:11:45 <Failtop> If you continue to bother and harass us, as I said, I will make sure you don't see LVP again either.
11:11:51 <Shinobi_BG> damn amn I'll talk to you some other day
11:11:54 <Shinobi_BG> you seem pissed
11:11:56 <Failtop> No you won't.
11:11:58 <Failtop> I'm not.
11:12:00 <Failtop> You're just an idiot.
11:12:04 <Failtop> This is how I converse with idiots.
11:12:04 <Shinobi_BG> like In a major bad mood
11:12:14 <Failtop> I'm in a bad mood? Not really.
11:12:17 <Failtop> Lying in bed right now
11:12:20 <Failtop> relaxing, talking to a friend
11:12:27 <Failtop> over TeamSpeak*
11:12:33 <Failtop> Nah, not in a bad mood at all
11:12:42 <Failtop> My persona of Failtop, however, is.
11:12:49 <Failtop> Very sexy, if I do say so myself.
11:12:59 <Failtop> Let me be clear with you, by the way
11:13:02 <Failtop> if you fly up to Boston
11:13:05 <Failtop> suck my dick
11:13:08 <Failtop> I will unban your friend
11:13:10 <Shinobi_BG> hahahahaha
11:13:25 <Shinobi_BG> how sexy exactly are you ?
11:13:28 <Failtop> I have a sense of humor, I'm a good guy
11:13:36 <Failtop> but don't try defending shit you can't defend
11:14:00 <Shinobi_BG> I'd defend friends anytime for any reason
11:14:12 <Failtop> Over a video game server?
11:14:14 <Shinobi_BG> I didn't me to be rude
11:14:15 <Failtop> That's pathetic.
11:14:16 <Shinobi_BG> or annoy you
11:14:20 <Failtop> neither did I
11:14:25 <Shinobi_BG> I know what it's like being admin
11:14:27 <Failtop> I simply come off as a douchebag
11:14:35 <Failtop> It's honestly not that hard.
11:14:53 <Failtop> Because of how blunt I am with people they usually back off and accept their punishment
11:14:58 <Failtop> You, on the other hand, aren't that smart.
11:15:08 <Shinobi_BG> I don't accept punishment at all
11:15:11 <Shinobi_BG> since I was a kid
11:15:15 <Shinobi_BG> :p
11:15:25 <Failtop> That must suck in the real world.
11:15:25 <Shinobi_BG> it's a flaw
11:15:29 <Shinobi_BG> that people enjoy actualy
11:15:43 <Shinobi_BG> I don't believe in punishment but free will
11:15:46 <Shinobi_BG> and reason
11:15:49 <Shinobi_BG> and understanding each other
11:16:07 <Failtop> You're a fucking walking clich?
11:16:24 <Failtop> bring that poetic garbage to someone else, please.
11:16:46 <Shinobi_BG> you can definitely use some poetic shit in your life
11:16:58 <Shinobi_BG> u do seem like a non-caring guy
11:17:05 <Shinobi_BG> and I'm trying so hard not to offend you
11:17:13 <Shinobi_BG> and be nice to the admin
11:17:13 <Failtop> You can't offend me.
11:17:16 <Failtop> it's the Internet
11:17:23 <Failtop> and even if you do, it won't get you anywhere
11:17:25 <Failtop> nor will even talking to me.
11:17:30 <Failtop> He's not getting unbanned and you need to deal with that fact.
11:17:34 <Failtop> it's not something you can change
11:17:37 <Failtop> it's not something you can alter
11:17:42 <Failtop> it's a fucking dead, cold, real fact.
11:18:03 <Shinobi_BG> so basicly if you're a good guy and a good admin for more than a month
11:18:19 <Shinobi_BG> and you're being asshole for 1 conversation
11:18:23 <Shinobi_BG> you should get banned forever
11:18:30 <Shinobi_BG> and lose your friends and accept it without question
11:18:35 <Shinobi_BG> and get the fuck out and never be seen again ?
11:18:39 <Failtop> I don't follow your logic.
11:18:56 <Failtop> He wasn't an asshole for a conversation, nor was he ever an admin
11:19:02 <Failtop> he was far from a good player, too
11:19:08 <Failtop> flaming and being disrespectful constantly
11:19:12 <Failtop> then he decided to cheat
11:19:25 <Failtop> Seriously, we don't care how much your eCare is for this guy
11:19:32 <Failtop> He's not getting unbanned.
11:19:44 <Shinobi_BG> you didn't follow my logic
11:20:03 <Shinobi_BG> if I post our assholeconversaion and you get banned would it be fair - for you to stay that way forever and deal with it ?
11:20:04 <Failtop> Because there isn't any.
11:20:10 <Failtop>
11:20:11 <Shinobi_BG> I'm not gonna do that
11:20:14 <Failtop> Post it.
11:20:14 <Shinobi_BG> but jsut asking
11:20:16 <Failtop> see what happens
11:20:16 <Failtop> \o
11:20:19 <Failtop> I keep logs too
11:20:23 <Shinobi_BG> you ban everyone ?
11:20:24 <Failtop> and all you've been is a douche
11:20:26 <Failtop> No
11:20:40 <Failtop> well
11:20:47 <Failtop> I have more bans/kicks than any other crew member
11:20:56 <Shinobi_BG> fine this is going nowhere and getting on my nerve as well as on yours
11:21:05 <Failtop> so you'll give up and accept reality already?
11:21:05 <Shinobi_BG> I'm sorry you jsut don't give a fuck about your users
11:21:08 <Failtop> Or will you take it farther?
11:21:11 <Failtop> We do care
11:21:13 <Failtop> But not about cheaters.
11:21:15 <Failtop> There's a difference
11:21:17 <Failtop> Learn it.
11:21:30 <Shinobi_BG> he's not a cheater but a dumb guy who epxerimented with his game
11:21:33 <Failtop> Maybe he should tell you about his spam, his disrespect, his flaming.
11:21:37 <Shinobi_BG> in a bad way he didn't know about
11:21:42 <Failtop> YEAH HE DID
11:21:47 <Failtop> one sec, I'll bring up the PM he gave me
11:22:00 <Shinobi_BG> hahah omg I can imagine
11:22:04 <Failtop> "Whats so bad have idone so i cant be unbanned.I just downloaded some CLEO mods and decided to play online to see whats goingon ,some dude started shooting at me i didnt lose health and i got banned i havent killed nobody plz unbann me tomorow"
11:22:14 <Failtop> It's obvious he knew what it did.
11:22:17 <Failtop> He admitted to it.
11:22:25 <Failtop> And it is in the rules that modifications such as those = cheats
11:22:27 <Failtop> cheats = lifetime ban
11:22:31 <Failtop> if he didn't read the rules, it's his own fault
11:22:44 <Failtop> we at Las Venturas Playground do not take any responsibility if you don't read the rules
11:22:55 <Failtop> Once you login, EVERY TIME YOU LOGIN, you accept the rules
11:23:02 <Failtop> he decided to not follow and he was punished.
11:23:11 <Failtop> We are in our full right to deny him access to our server because of this
11:23:34 <Shinobi_BG> and if this shit never happens again ?
11:23:44 <Failtop> Once again
11:23:47 <Failtop> Lifetime ban <
11:23:52 <Failtop> No second chances.
11:23:54 <Failtop> Do you even fucking read?
11:23:59 <Failtop> I'm done with you.
11:24:03 <Shinobi_BG> this is sparta right
11:24:04 <Shinobi_BG> fine
11:24:10 <Failtop> It is Sparta.
11:24:25 <Failtop> The other crew member was trying to be nice
11:24:27 <Failtop> You decided to see me
11:24:32 <Shinobi_BG> I like sparta but I definitel don't enjoy rules based on assholness
11:24:37 <Failtop> LOL
11:24:41 <Failtop> Rules that disallow cheating?
11:24:45 <Failtop> My God, how assholeish!
11:24:51 <Shinobi_BG> no rules that don't allowe second chances
11:24:52 <Failtop> Go on another server if you don't like our rules.
11:25:06 <Failtop> everything BESIDES cheating = second chance
11:25:14 <Failtop> cheating is basically like first degree murder in real life
11:25:17 <Failtop> you don't get a fucking second chance
11:25:19 <Failtop> you're just gone.
11:25:26 <Failtop> now move along and have a swell day
11:25:28 <Failtop> because I'm off
11:26:14 <Shinobi_BG> ok man, sorry for annoying you
11:26:25 <Shinobi_BG> let's hope you never find a dead body around you and go to prison for life for it
11:26:54 <Shinobi_BG> making that kind of mistake
11:27:14 <Shinobi_BG> bye
I hope other players learn from our mistake.
I'll quit "Guild tripping you" do be cool guys and care for your users. Tell me I don't make sense. I'm not trying to be an ass really ! I don't mean to offend you or annoy you - I wanna play and have a good time.
I got banned too.
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