[S] Pickup Removal

[SAFC]

Hey, everyone knows that the unregistered players first spawn point is popular for killing.

AAHHH GETTIIIINNNN SUNDERLAND JUST SCORED  1-0 to sunderland v chelsea 



Whoops i had a moment there...

Anyway... The armour refill where all those people fight is being abused, heres why...

Noob is fighting, he decideds he cant win, so he runs for a refil... annoying... he then starts fighting again...

Decideds he has no chance. so he runs to the nearest interior, that being the Sex Shop..

He then decides to do /world and then come out of the interior to refill his armour again.

Admins and mods aren't able to spot or catch these very well.. The only response players seem to get is, ok let me know when they do it again... So what you can tell me to watch for it again?

if someone is fighting, then runs to an interior and does /world --  its shown on the /locate that they're in a vw.

So, two things i had thought of.

First being... Remove the armour pickup from that spot.. There is a health pickup over the road, or a health and armour pickup at the fight club..

Second... when someone uses /world --  save a timestamp from when they used /world -- then when its checked by an admin /locate noobworlabuser  it'll show they're in a vw and the amount of time since they teleported there..

That way, a report comes in admin does /locate id and the seconds should be low if they're recently world abused, so its almost certain they're abusing...

The gameplay in lvp since 2.9 is just constant laming.. regulars who dont need to rely on laming are getting frustrated and its making the server boring.


SAFC 1-0 Chelsea

[Richard]

As I said in the other topic about this, /world shouldn't be possible when you've been in a fight. That should fix it.

Maybe we should replace it somewhere near, where you have to climb up in order to get it. So the people refilling "normally" can refill and the people refilling which are near death, can get killed.

[SAFC]

In that area there isn't really any place, but maybe on the corner of the visage wall, so people must climb up to get it.

Either that or change the pickup type to one that can only be picked up once per player, and won't respawn until the player dies.

A lot of the people who world abuse don't shoot before they skip worlds. They stop shooting when they realise they're gonna die and run to the nearest interior, or vehicle. Then /world away to refill.

[Richard]

Either that or change the pickup type to one that can only be picked up once per player, and won't respawn until the player dies.

I like that.

A lot of the people who world abuse don't shoot before they skip worlds. They stop shooting when  they realise they're gonna die and run to the nearest interior, or vehicle. Then /world away to refill.

That gives you 15 seconds to finish them

[SAFC]

That gives you 15 seconds to finish them

Easier said than done when they're running around near the interior entrance anyway.

That noob spawn place was  a bad idea to be honest.. I've rarely seen anyone reading the info pickups.

Plus its just another thing encurraging lamers.

So.. If the pickup stays, then the whole noobite joining thing should go back to the old way. or have a textdraw showing the rules as they spawn.. in a random spawn location.

I've seen people get lamed by players who are now in DLF or were in HC4L, and a lot of the players just /q as soon as they've been killed..

Its not very appealing for someone to get blitzed 5 seconds into their gameplay.


EDIT: Bastard cockneys ended 1-3 to chelsea 

[Richard]

See my post on the other topic on that.

[SAFC]

Cool, but that being said. The /world abuse is still a big issue, aswell as the nading peoples fights then running into interiors or to the ship.

Its now become that the noobs and lamers are taking over the server because the regular dm'ers are bored.

Its boring the fact that the server lags so bad, that there is so many lamers and that tere is so many mods / admin who are too dumb to spot or to realise who the lamers are and what they're doing.

I've reported load sof lamers and abusers, sometimes theres sometihng done, but most of the time nothing happens.

And before i get the "what we do we dont tell players about", after reporting, over and over. The lamers and abusers are stull doing it for the next 30mins to 1 hour, if i stay on the server that long..

There are some awesome admins and mods, they dont treat their position as an excuse to do nothing.

You get some who still do DM and spot cheaters and abusers a lot easier. And some others who still feel its needed to stand on the pirate ship for 2 hours... Why? theres an auto jailing if people fight anyway.

The only way to stop the lamers from abusing the lvp features is to have admins and mods playing amongst the rest of us.

They're brought in to help i'd imagine, so why when someone is given rights, do they suddenly become a statue on the ship?

If you play and fight in amongst players, the mods and admins would see the lamers, and catch them easier.

Unless something is done, then i cant see lvp keeping much of its regulars for much longer.

[Sander]

You are complaining for 1/1.5/2? years now, and telling us every time that LVP will loose it's regular players.
Guess what, it didn't happen. Guess what, it won't happen either.

And: http://forum.sa-mp.nl/index.php?topic=21...#msg248610

[SAFC]

WEll guess what it has happened..

You see out of 100 members. Most are noobs who prefer to go around laming and abusing.

Maybe around 10 - 15 regular long term players.. The rest got sick of the lag and laming and barely play.

Just now i've had someone drive by me until low health and then get off the biek to shoot me..

So i ask, if they can lame and abuse like that, without admins seeing or taking action, then why shouldnt i just go back in and start 2shotting the ones who lame me?

Admins arent checking players so whats to stop anyone doing it?


And by the way, im not the only one complaining about the lamers... Open one of the topics up about the laming so everyone can have their say..

[Jay]

WEll guess what it has happened..

Weird, most players have over 100 hours ingame. 100 hours is lot on any other game but is considered low on LVP because that many people are regulars and keep coming back.

You see out of 100 members. Most are noobs who prefer to go around laming and abusing.

Noobs are what make LVP so fun - they're easy to kill. Still though, I agree that lamers suck.

Just now i've had someone drive by me until low health and then get off the biek to shoot me..

Well that's just life of SA:MP unfortuntaley. Try going to LWs, you'll see a lot more drivebyers.

So i ask, if they can lame and abuse like that, without admins seeing or taking action, then why shouldnt i just go back in and start 2shotting the ones who lame me?

Because You'll get banned. There is a difference between abusing a bug and laming. We are not allowed to punish people without first witnessing it for ourselfs. It's not like players are dumb - admins do DM with other players, it's just that players don't break rules around admins so it's really hard for us to catch people.

Admins arent checking players so whats to stop anyone doing it?

Can I see your source on that? Do you have anything to back that up?

And by the way, im not the only one complaining about the lamers... Open one of the topics up about the laming so everyone can have their say..

I know your not. I don't like lamers either, along with most of the other people apart of this community.


I agree that Lamers suck and something does need doing about the pickups. Bare with me on this - we do have other priorities but I can assure you some changes will be made.

Jay

Fuck Chelsea indeed. Wasn't a bad match though I'll give them that. Ah well, at least Liverpool won yesterday and Man U got beat by... Burnley haha