[UNBANNED]nikkislayer7 ban

[Nikkislayer7]

Nickname: Nikkislayer7
Date of the ban: 26 February 2009, around 5:30 PM PST
Suspected Reason: "Saying kill the jew!" during the time of a kill the red one! minigame
My IP address: 75.16.94.203

[Joe]

As the ban states, come back in 3 days. kthxbai

[Nikkislayer7]

i dont get why i was banned though. if people were offended by this, i am completely sorry. its just that today people said i kinda acted like Eric Cartman from south park. i am truly sorry if anyone was offended. But i dont understand why i should be banned because of this...

[TEF]

i dont get why i was banned though. if people were offended by this, i am completely sorry. its just that today people said i kinda acted like Eric Cartman from south park. i am truly sorry if anyone was offended. But i dont understand why i should be banned because of this...

So you think acting like a television show character justifies anti-Semitic remarks? Well, sure, you can go ahead thinking that way if you wish, but here on Las Venturas Playground we have rules. You've brought this ban upon yourself by breaking our rule against derogatory statements (also known as "flaming"). You don't understand why you should be banned for this? Well, besides the fact that you insulted around 13.3 million people with your comment, I'd say it's because of the obvious ignorance behind what you said. Perhaps instead of just letting your mind run wild you should think about what you say and how its context could affect others around you. Perhaps instead of just saying discriminating remarks you could educate yourself and learn more about the peoples of whom you would have insulted with said remark. So again, perhaps, and just perhaps, you could think before you speak.

Do yourself a favor and educate that mind of yours.


~ Justin (A.K.A. TEF)

[Nikkislayer7]

i have and have spent a whole year learning about the holocaust, jews, etc, but the reason you guys/gals are taking this so to heart  is probably that you are jewish. now you dont need to tell me that i need to educate my mind. Also, last time i checked, there are not 13.3 million people who play LVP who just all happen to be jewish. Also i have heard your ignorance towards me, when i used a hydra, not knowing it was an admin vehicle id like to add..., you are very ignorant to people who dont think like you. you think that ur common sense is everyones common sense. Well guess what, common sense is considered the mental mind frame of a reasonable prudent person aka the "average joe". Now i dont see how anti-semitism is flaming since i have seen the exact way you have acted towards others. if anything, you have been flaming. So maybe, just maybe, you could think the next time you speak....


BTW the above comment is my response to TEF. I would pm him on irc chat, but apparently my ip address or something is banned, so i cant...

[TEF]

It's actually quite common sense for players who play on Las Venturas Playground on a regular basis to know that the Hydra and Hunter are admin vehicles; whether or not you choose to accept this information is up to you. Also, you said, and I quote:

Now i dont see how anti-semitism is flaming since i have seen the exact way you have acted towards others. if anything, you have been flaming. So maybe, just maybe, you could think the next time you speak....

So, you don't see how being discriminatory toward an entire religion (which is where that number of 13.3 million comes in) is "flaming"? Sure, that makes sense, but only if you don't know what the term means. Let me direct you to the definition of "insult," which is what "flaming" truly means. Now, would you still argue that commanding others to "kill the Jew" is not insulting? On to another matter, though. You think that I've been flaming; that I've been ignorant; and that I've just been completely incoherent with the way I've been speaking? Well, alright, I guess you have just as much right telling me I flame as I do you. Oh no, I'm sorry, you don't, as you have no evidence of me flaming; nor do you have anything but personal problems with me. You relate me kicking you for abusing the admin vehicles with being ignorant. Sure, you can call that "ignorant" if you wish, no-one's stopping you, however what I was really doing was trying to make you understand what those vehicles are for. Again, whether or not you choose to accept how I moderate (and I've been doing this a very long time) is completely up to you. If you have a problem with me, I urge you to talk with me about how I can better my technique, even if it's just a little plan for you.

There's something I'm missing... oh, right:

i have and have spent a whole year learning about the holocaust, jews, etc, but the reason you guys/gals are taking this so to heart  is probably that you are jewish. now you dont need to tell me that i need to educate my mind.

Just because you've been learning about the Jewish people does not mean you know everything there is about them, nor does it mean that you fully understand the true meaning of the words you say. Where do you get the audacity to say that you know about Jewish history, then turn around and again insult them? I'm sorry, that just makes zero sense. You say that the reason us "guys/gals are taking this so to heart is probably that you are jewish." Okay, now this is the perfect example of what you should never say. Regardless of what your religion is, you should never say anything that could be insulting to anyone. I know for a fact that neither Joe nor I are Jewish, therefore your argument about us "taking this so to heart" is void.


You shouldn't make assumptions, bud.


~ Justin (A.K.A. TEF)

[cloakster]

What if i said to you "Kill the (your religion)". Would you like that? No, so shut up.

[Joe]

Any crew member has permission to unban you whenever you post back here, so, it's on you now.