[Unbanned] C- bug

[MoToRoLa]

Nickname: [SaW]MoToRoLa
Date of the ban: August 24, 2008, 12:45:46 AM
Suspected Reason: C- bug
Your IP address: 190.99.226.65

pff why no warning i just did only like 6 shoots a pm was enough. arent worlds supposed to b private?
u banned for the same reason n00ne and langelange?

PS: Dell sucks

[Mike]

What use is warning you with information that you already retain? You know the rules: No bug abuse.

3 Days.

[MoToRoLa]

Bug abusing is defined as 'using a but to create an advantage against other players'. Yes, you were shooting at people using this bug.

Also, not only did you know the rules, you used this bug even after two other people were banned.

What use is warning you with information that you already retain? You know the rules: No bug abuse.
3 Days.

so u banned us just for fun? because if not you wouldnt have joined with other name and u wouldnt have had an attitude of "it wasnt me " and u would have warned us as most admins do. i hope u answer haze's topic.

and btw coming into a world with ppl inside to ruin an event (like fc fights) or affect other ppl (like make em shoot u to ban em) is world abuse. what u got to say?

it was pretty lame i was like "wtf banned? i was in other world fighting and this random come here to ban us?", we werent abusing because everybody that was in that world (17) are pros, so if u come without an invitation how do u expect to be received? with flowers and a song?

Bug abusing is defined as 'using a but to create an advantage against other players'

and if u want me banned k, but langelange and n00ne's bans were even more unfairly because they were fighting and they didnt shoot u, and as they r pros, theres no adventage, as haze said, because both know the bug, so its not abuse and as its not abuse then wtf r they banned for?

PS:

Quotes from Mike in HaZe's topic:

I can not even begin to explain how humble this seems that you are not seeing the consequences if this is allowed.

we were in other world and as i said, we werent abusing it (you defined abuse, right?).

If I remove the ban on these three players, it will tell everyone that 'it is okay to abuse bugs in other worlds'.  Do you want that?  I think that not only do I speak for the crew, but the majority of LVP when I say that is not acceptable. So, being in other worlds (Reason A) is irrelevant.

k u cant remove the ban, infact 3 days are nothing, but u at least have to admit that u were wrong when u joined the world just for getting shoot and ban us.

Each person I banned were using the bug towards someone else (shooting at them). So, I invalidate your (B argument.

langelange and n00ne were shooting theirselves how could any of them report the other?

Interestingly enough, the people that were being shot at with the bug were not using it themselves.
Also, being in the same group does not matter; if it did, someone would complain that everyone one the server is part of their 'group'. So, reason ©, (D), and (E) are also irrelevant.

do you think for example TEF that is your friend will talk bad about u or report u? :\ it DOES matter

For your Reason (F), (as I had mentioned in Motorola's appeal) what use is there warning you if you already know the rules? So you can get away with it without being punished? So, if these guys bug abuse again in a month, should I just warn them again? What about the 3rd time?

how many times have we been banned for bug abuse?

If players are using the bug, and know it's against the rules, it's obviously no use, as they do not respect the rules.

so u respect players when u say "/me = no banned them " and when u come a world without have been invited?

[MoToRoLa]

I agree with the ban. Let's set up a little scenario here.
We have A, B, C. Three players on LVP (you know who!). Now, they're all in a virtual world. However! They've activated godmode via their favourite cheat system, and are blasting each other with infinite RPGs and a shower of minigun bullets.

But, as they're in a virtual world and they all know how to cheat (as they are), let's leave them to it! Yes?

No. Cheating is cheating, bug abusing is bug abusing. The rules don't state that they only apply in world 0.. so they apply server-wide. We have rules and if you don't stick to them... don't expect to be around for long.

And just before you reply; this reply is not irrelevant. It's a 100% relevant way to explain what you think is right and wrong.

so ur accusing using of cheating without proof? thats a totally irrespect. as mike said, bug abuse is when a player gets an advantage and everybody in that world was pro, so wheres the disadvantage?

My respect level for you has just vanished; I'm sorry. I suggest if you intend on discussing other people's bans, that you keep a professional attitude.

Same for u, i tought u were a serious admin not a child that come into a world to ban ppl and to say "it wasnt me "

While the decision may already be set, I'd still like to say that for a simple C-Bug while in a Virtual World with your own gangmates really isn't a ban-worthy reason. Bug abuse is still bug abuse, cheating is still cheating, indeed, however, there's certain bans which are just plain bullshit. This is one of them. You say that it encourages others to abuse in other Worlds, but, newsflash, that's been going on for a while. C-Bug, being the small, idiotic bug it is, should really be a "kick, ban" type of thing. I mean, it really doesn't hurt anybody more. These are not my bans, therefore I cannot do anything, however, I'd like to just say that, ultimately, if you're going to bug abuse, just do it on a different server. It prevents shit like this from going down in the first place.

My Two Cents Worth! Clown


~ Justin (A.K.A. TEF)

wheres the 'abuse'? and btw why u didnt pm'd us?

If we allow bug-abusing in virtual worlds.. what stops someone from jumping into someone else's world and killing everyone? "NOOOO ITS A VIRTUAL WORLD"

And unless you purchase your vworld via a gang, anyone may enter as they wish. If you break rules in the vworld, don't expect it to be pretty..

how would we know 2 random covered nerds would enter there to ban us? and stop lockin my topics just because u dont like them

... cya in 3 days

I'm not tomozj!

[MoToRoLa]

unban time 

[Mike]

Unbanned.