05-13-2010, 11:05 PM
I asked if there was a possibility of postponing the update, because of the recent troubles, and because some people were clearly against it last week. In that post I've also said that this would be the last time, because the roadmap will be done this week. Maybe it wasn't a formal proposal, but I believe that I firmly asked about it. The reaction I got was that there must be a blogpost yesterday.
In a response to that I've asked every developer if they were okay with the update, because it seemed clear that we had to do anything, as was posted. Matthias and thiaZ said it was fine, so I waited just for you Jay, and I also said there that because of the current agreement that was still going and all that we didn't really have a choice. You then agreed with that. So in response to that I've asked Sander to run an update.
Listen, I'm not happy with the situation as well, but I firmly believe that I've acted responsibly and as I should yesterday. I would also rather just focus on developing stuff.. We should just finish our roadmap and make a proposal based on that, and forward that to the coremanagement. Once we have done that and a new agreement gets accepted, we can leave everything behind and start clean.
About 2.91 updates, I still think we should keep doing some updates, mainly to fix incoming bugs. If you want to lower the frequency of that, be my guest, and we'll add it into the proposal, but I do believe that if we want to keep our players we should fix bugs like the one reported some times today that guests can enter VIP vehicles. I'm the only one putting some time in 2.91, and all fixes of 2.91 will also be put into 3.0, so I don't believe it takes a lot of time away. But as said again, be my guest, you and Matthias and thiaZ are the one mainly developing the version, so yes, you should have a say in that, which is why you can make the proposal. Wesley and I might suggest some changes, but I'm yours as it is on 3.0 updates. I want this neverending debate to end as much as you do, but my true opinion is that we should atleast do some small updating on 2.91, but a frequency change? Fine. I just want to fix the most annoying bugs as they show up, because we all agree we still want some players on 3.0, and that we don't want everyone annoyed to death.
Also posted on behalf of Wesley
In a response to that I've asked every developer if they were okay with the update, because it seemed clear that we had to do anything, as was posted. Matthias and thiaZ said it was fine, so I waited just for you Jay, and I also said there that because of the current agreement that was still going and all that we didn't really have a choice. You then agreed with that. So in response to that I've asked Sander to run an update.
Listen, I'm not happy with the situation as well, but I firmly believe that I've acted responsibly and as I should yesterday. I would also rather just focus on developing stuff.. We should just finish our roadmap and make a proposal based on that, and forward that to the coremanagement. Once we have done that and a new agreement gets accepted, we can leave everything behind and start clean.
About 2.91 updates, I still think we should keep doing some updates, mainly to fix incoming bugs. If you want to lower the frequency of that, be my guest, and we'll add it into the proposal, but I do believe that if we want to keep our players we should fix bugs like the one reported some times today that guests can enter VIP vehicles. I'm the only one putting some time in 2.91, and all fixes of 2.91 will also be put into 3.0, so I don't believe it takes a lot of time away. But as said again, be my guest, you and Matthias and thiaZ are the one mainly developing the version, so yes, you should have a say in that, which is why you can make the proposal. Wesley and I might suggest some changes, but I'm yours as it is on 3.0 updates. I want this neverending debate to end as much as you do, but my true opinion is that we should atleast do some small updating on 2.91, but a frequency change? Fine. I just want to fix the most annoying bugs as they show up, because we all agree we still want some players on 3.0, and that we don't want everyone annoyed to death.
Also posted on behalf of Wesley