06-05-2009, 10:34 PM
It's not that every admin knows every property. In fact, I started buying more properties again lately and I don't think I even know 1/10 of them all. Next to that, if the map was back, there is no fun in it anymore, there's no so called property-hunt. People would know all of the properties. And, admins can make their own money, but not everyone does so(taking myself as example).
So there's no kind of list or way to "snap to" properties in the map editor? I don't know much about how you guys add stuff to the server so I could just be talking bullshit, but it would seem to me that there would be some way of finding them all relatively easily. And as far as it not being fun goes, I can see your point in that. But while scavenger hunts can be fun, making money can be difficult for noobs (at least it was for me when I started out). Buying and being able to find properties would be more efficient than standing on the ship, and would gain them access to spawnweapons, etc. faster, which would in turn make them want to stay on the server. It's a stretched-out line of thought, but I think I've explained it enough lol.
Molotovs can be fun indeed, but for our regular gameplay, I think people would be rather annoyed. Lots of people already cry about nading. If they cry about that, I don't think they'd like having fires everywhere.
As for the melee weapons, agreed. There's flowers somewhere in SF too(and maybe more places that I am unaware of), but it's not too much.
They would be annoying at first, but a fire is easier to spot than a grenade explosion, so it would serve as a kind of "warning" that molotovs are being used in the area, whereas nades just come out of fucking nowhere and piss you off lol.
As far as the melee weapons go, I'd mainly like to see the knife be incorporated into the server outside of the minigame. I'm aware that it's possible to do a one-hit kill with it, but the chances of it happening when everyone's using tecs and sawnoffs all the time isn't as high as one may think. There should be a bat at the baseball stadium, a (pimp)cane in one of the lapdance rooms of all the strip clubs, dildo in the porn store, brass knuckles outside the boxing/martial arts buildings, maybe put a knife in jail and let people fight when there's multiple people in jail together.
Jetpacks are an absolute nogo for me. It's easy to spot people hacking as it is, but having everyone allowed to use jetpacks would make it a lot harder. Not to mention having 20 000 jetpacks spawned around the cities, as if you leave them normally, they tend to multiply. I give them out sometimes for fun, but imo it should remain something special.
As for the minigame, that'd take ages to get people down. It can already be hard to hit people well whilst running the ground(the people on the ground and you in the air), let alone both parties flying.
Maybe you can hide just one on the map somewhere and not tell anyone about it, that way there wouldn't be a million of them all over the city. And as for the minigame, it could be in a small room (like boxing ring sized) so people couldn't run away and it would make them easier to hit. And I hadn't thought about the flying hackers part, that's a good point. So if/when you hide the one jetpack, make it so that you have to have 50 hours on the server to be able to use it. Most hackers are new/unregistered so they wouldn't be able to use it, and it would be easy to tell which of the two people flying was the one hacking.
1. Define this a little more please. You want a minigame with every gun in the game(this isn't possible as you can only hold 1 gun of each type, but we could go for the strongest of every type) with teams and no FF?
That's what I meant, a selection of the best weapons in the game (deagle, sawnoffs, macs, M4, sniper rifle, molotovs, and the chainsaw for example) in a warehouse or similar sized building packed with pedestrians. You could either have a kill quota to meet or a time limit where the peds keep spawning and players kill as many as they possibly can before the time runs out. Everyone enjoys a good massacre every now and then lol.
2. I [b]personally see no point in a driveby minigame.[/b]
That's why I put it on the "maybe" list, I didn't think it would go over well. But it could be fun, kind of like a destruction derby with guns as the main focus.
3. There's both /taxi 8 and /taxi 9. Not to mention that you can 'fly' there from the airports(I do not mean by plane or helicopter, but you can 'fly' there with a menu alike the taxi).
I forgot about that, thanks lol.
4. This sounds good to me, but 3 hours might be a bit much. We could also make it an achievement!
I suggested this because I owned a property for 502 minutes when I sold it and thought to myself "I should get something for that, I bet it doesn't happen often".
5. Hell no. We do not allow hacking, at all, at any time.
Fair enough. I just thought it might be fun because I've never hacked before and wanted to try it lol.
6. We've just written a handler and all for it, we won't just change it back without a reason.
Not to mention that a lot of people find it to be annoying if they can be shot inside the 24/7s etc. Including health loss, that is.
True, but a lot of people (like myself) like to run inside when they're about to die, and it's lame to chase someone inside when they're almost dead only to not be able to kill them until they heal up. It protects my ass a lot of the time, but it shouldn't lol.
Grand Theft Auto or not, 'flaming' in the game itself or not, rated 18+ or not, there's a lot of minors. Not to mention we see no point in insulting each other. You can use swearwords, but actual flaming and/or insult is prohibited, and it will remain to be this way.
Like I said, the chat shouldn't be a cesspool of bad language. But people shouldn't get kicked for calling someone a fag or for saying the now socially accepted N word with an A on the end instead of an ER. I was trying to explain to TEF that while it's a nice gesture to aim for friendliness, it keeps away some people who get into the game enough to spend hours on at a time.
My main point in registering on this forum is to suggest things that might bring in more people from other servers and make them stay. I hate how the only time there's more than 20 people on is when I'm about to go to bed. I'd like to help make LVP more appealing to outsiders than the shitty RP servers they play on, how they prefer that over this as it is is beyond me. It's a genuine concern of mine.
And despite what TEF has said, I'm not a troll, I assure you of that. I've got 170 hours on LVP, I don't come here to cause problems. I just love this server and want to be a part of making it better.
So there's no kind of list or way to "snap to" properties in the map editor? I don't know much about how you guys add stuff to the server so I could just be talking bullshit, but it would seem to me that there would be some way of finding them all relatively easily. And as far as it not being fun goes, I can see your point in that. But while scavenger hunts can be fun, making money can be difficult for noobs (at least it was for me when I started out). Buying and being able to find properties would be more efficient than standing on the ship, and would gain them access to spawnweapons, etc. faster, which would in turn make them want to stay on the server. It's a stretched-out line of thought, but I think I've explained it enough lol.
Molotovs can be fun indeed, but for our regular gameplay, I think people would be rather annoyed. Lots of people already cry about nading. If they cry about that, I don't think they'd like having fires everywhere.
As for the melee weapons, agreed. There's flowers somewhere in SF too(and maybe more places that I am unaware of), but it's not too much.
They would be annoying at first, but a fire is easier to spot than a grenade explosion, so it would serve as a kind of "warning" that molotovs are being used in the area, whereas nades just come out of fucking nowhere and piss you off lol.
As far as the melee weapons go, I'd mainly like to see the knife be incorporated into the server outside of the minigame. I'm aware that it's possible to do a one-hit kill with it, but the chances of it happening when everyone's using tecs and sawnoffs all the time isn't as high as one may think. There should be a bat at the baseball stadium, a (pimp)cane in one of the lapdance rooms of all the strip clubs, dildo in the porn store, brass knuckles outside the boxing/martial arts buildings, maybe put a knife in jail and let people fight when there's multiple people in jail together.
Jetpacks are an absolute nogo for me. It's easy to spot people hacking as it is, but having everyone allowed to use jetpacks would make it a lot harder. Not to mention having 20 000 jetpacks spawned around the cities, as if you leave them normally, they tend to multiply. I give them out sometimes for fun, but imo it should remain something special.
As for the minigame, that'd take ages to get people down. It can already be hard to hit people well whilst running the ground(the people on the ground and you in the air), let alone both parties flying.
Maybe you can hide just one on the map somewhere and not tell anyone about it, that way there wouldn't be a million of them all over the city. And as for the minigame, it could be in a small room (like boxing ring sized) so people couldn't run away and it would make them easier to hit. And I hadn't thought about the flying hackers part, that's a good point. So if/when you hide the one jetpack, make it so that you have to have 50 hours on the server to be able to use it. Most hackers are new/unregistered so they wouldn't be able to use it, and it would be easy to tell which of the two people flying was the one hacking.
1. Define this a little more please. You want a minigame with every gun in the game(this isn't possible as you can only hold 1 gun of each type, but we could go for the strongest of every type) with teams and no FF?
That's what I meant, a selection of the best weapons in the game (deagle, sawnoffs, macs, M4, sniper rifle, molotovs, and the chainsaw for example) in a warehouse or similar sized building packed with pedestrians. You could either have a kill quota to meet or a time limit where the peds keep spawning and players kill as many as they possibly can before the time runs out. Everyone enjoys a good massacre every now and then lol.
2. I [b]personally see no point in a driveby minigame.[/b]
That's why I put it on the "maybe" list, I didn't think it would go over well. But it could be fun, kind of like a destruction derby with guns as the main focus.
3. There's both /taxi 8 and /taxi 9. Not to mention that you can 'fly' there from the airports(I do not mean by plane or helicopter, but you can 'fly' there with a menu alike the taxi).
I forgot about that, thanks lol.
4. This sounds good to me, but 3 hours might be a bit much. We could also make it an achievement!
I suggested this because I owned a property for 502 minutes when I sold it and thought to myself "I should get something for that, I bet it doesn't happen often".
5. Hell no. We do not allow hacking, at all, at any time.
Fair enough. I just thought it might be fun because I've never hacked before and wanted to try it lol.
6. We've just written a handler and all for it, we won't just change it back without a reason.
Not to mention that a lot of people find it to be annoying if they can be shot inside the 24/7s etc. Including health loss, that is.True, but a lot of people (like myself) like to run inside when they're about to die, and it's lame to chase someone inside when they're almost dead only to not be able to kill them until they heal up. It protects my ass a lot of the time, but it shouldn't lol.
Grand Theft Auto or not, 'flaming' in the game itself or not, rated 18+ or not, there's a lot of minors. Not to mention we see no point in insulting each other. You can use swearwords, but actual flaming and/or insult is prohibited, and it will remain to be this way.
Like I said, the chat shouldn't be a cesspool of bad language. But people shouldn't get kicked for calling someone a fag or for saying the now socially accepted N word with an A on the end instead of an ER. I was trying to explain to TEF that while it's a nice gesture to aim for friendliness, it keeps away some people who get into the game enough to spend hours on at a time.
My main point in registering on this forum is to suggest things that might bring in more people from other servers and make them stay. I hate how the only time there's more than 20 people on is when I'm about to go to bed. I'd like to help make LVP more appealing to outsiders than the shitty RP servers they play on, how they prefer that over this as it is is beyond me. It's a genuine concern of mine.
And despite what TEF has said, I'm not a troll, I assure you of that. I've got 170 hours on LVP, I don't come here to cause problems. I just love this server and want to be a part of making it better.