New crew moderation methods.

[Maddolis]

With all due respect, that incident is very insignificant compared to a lot of the crap me and a good number of my mates experience. When pm'd "fuck you" or something, make the most of it with a humorous response that doesn't flame them but shows that you don't care (eg "whatever," or if you don't mind, "ok but make sure you use protection" or something similar).
Player: "hey noob"
Admin: "hey"
Player: "gimme a pluspoint"
Admin: "Sorry but as a noob I dont know how to give out pluspoints"
/mute if they fly off the hook.

Also, I don't believe I or guys like shoebox have opened conversations like that.
Anyway, to make my first point (I'll leave some others for later in the thread, as to tackle issues one step at a time), I think some players are treated unjustly.
Nerd got a few-month ban ("perma ban") for flaming Barry on msn (note, there is a block+delete function on msn), and shoebox for defending him. I find shoebox's ban for defending his mate to be silly enough as it is, but to be perm-banned for it is ludacris. Then HaZe was recently given an ingame ban (although he's unbanned now) for a small amount of flame on the irc.
I think LVP should be split up into its juristictions- an ingame ban for ingame behavior, an irc-channel ban for irc behavior, teamspeak ban for teamspeak behavior, and leave msn out of it.

shoebox and Nerd shouldn't have such long bans from such small amount of flame.
I believe many admins don't give a damn about flame, but rather about attitude.
If some random says "fuck you" a few times in mainchat, they may get a DaBot warning after the 5th or 6th time, but when some [HC4L] or I write a single sentence in caps or one questionable non-english word then we'll get a mute or a kick. Simply wearing the [HC4L] tag, irregardless of past behavior tends to add days to a ban. If shoebox or Nerd were in [BA] I'm sure their !why lists would be 20% the size and they'd be playing LVP right now. The crew seem to believe that these players move out of their way to make trouble for others- but it is simply through our controversial behavior in gangchat where we are issued mutes, kicks or bans, and only after that do we argue.
Most of the time when we/[HC4L] are flamed, we ignore or agree with the flamer, and if crewmembers viewed every player as if they were [HC4L] then there'd either be a whole lot more bans or a whole lot less.
If you look back at the logs and read over shoebox and Nerd's last statements on an LVP-owned place (lvp irc channel, ingame) and still think that they've deserved to be banned for the last couple of months, then you're taking this game far too seriously.

a)I'm fine with irc behavior prolonguing ingame bans, but not beginning ingame bans.
b)Moderate people based on the action itself, not based upon who is doing the action.