12-19-2008, 11:34 PM
Quote:Oh, our eternal moaner is back. You almost got me to worry, a week without any moaning from you.
A little uncalled for but its to be expected given your history of insults to players..
Remember if it wasnt for the player LVP wouldn't be around, you guys can do all the scripting and rules you want, but if it wasnt for the players it would be a waste of time and effort, so treat the players with more respect, even those who like to express their opinion more than others, and you'll earn the respect of the players...
Anyway... An admin without knowledge of fighting skills is often going to make wrong judgements. Im not saying every admin should be awesome at fighting, that doesn't matter. But atleast have some knowledge of it. Like knowing the difference between a player using a bug and a bug that the player isn't aware he/ she is using. Like the health one, where people can shoot you but you take no damage, but if you drop from the sky you die. And then still cant take any weapons damage after you respawn.
I've had that happen to me, luckily HaZe was temp mod at the time and knew it was a bug so he just told me to reconnect and it would fix it. Maybe another admin / mod would have banned me and the appeal been rejected.
And silly laws, we have one in england, you can't murder or carry weapons like guns, knives and crossbows in public. But you can kill a scotish man in Yorkshire with a crossbow, only on a Sunday... So Benbmyers stay away from York on Sundays

But anyway... If an admin / mod doesn't know the difference between 2-shot and delayed 4shot, regular players will get banned wrongly, and there will be more and more complaints...
I myself have used 2shot infront of some mods to see if they would ban for it, i didnt shoot players just the floor infront of me and obects, but notihng happened, and it wasn't like there was anyone around to obstrust the view of me 2-shotting, there wasnt many people there at all so i was easy to spot.
Its also hard for players to learn bugs just by watching them being done, to a player, the bugs jsut look like no-reload cheats. So they wouldnt bother trying to do it anyway. Even if they dont think its a cheat, they would need to know the buttons to press and the amount of times + the timing in pressing them to get the bug to work. So to watch and learn a bug isn't possible without being told how to...
As for cheaters, i've had to report some cheaters 5 or more times before either giving up or using CAPs in the admin chat to get their attention. And a few times its taken over an hour to ban a cheater who had been using the cheats the whole time... Its not hard to figure out if someone is cheater, I used to admin on a server that allowed some cheats...Sounds pointless having admins, but we just used to stop the flamers and make sure they stayed in a certain area if they wanted to play with their new found cheat programs, and let the non-cheating players have their own fun without being disturbed...
Anyway i aint saying mods / admins dont do a good job, but i feel it should be a requirement that an admin / mod knows how to spot these bugs and take the right action...
I get on with most of the crew, and i often help catch cheaters if i see any in game. I tp to them and provoke them to use their cheats. So it makes it a bit easyer to catch them so they're banned sooner...
Just to finish, i've noticed the gang worlds seem to allow random players to join then, when before these worlds once a gang had bought them, become locked to those who aren't invited... Would it be possible to alow a player to join a world, then lock it and invite players, and then in this world they can use 2shot to fight eachother? This must be agreed between the players first. If anyone is found to be teaching bugs then yeah ban them. But if they just want to fight using 2shot why stop them if its in another world thats locked? Nobody will be able to get in without an invite from the first joiner, so theres no way of anyone learning how to use the bugs...
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