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[Nater]

Its not all about the talent and pawning that i would combine HC4L and CF as allies.They have the respect and you can't ask for to much respect.Unlike most of the "top" ranked players/clans thinking their the mighty shit,and can't show just a little respect towards new comers,your downgrading yourself really because you were new once and got a can of woop ass..Why would i recruit for allies from the people i dislike the most here?I wouldn't because most of you's are immature little pricks,unlike CF they've brought in some hardcore fights and didn't complain a bit.

It might seem like a shame but it comes down to who were cool with an like to chill with in game.So whats the big shame about being cool mates?

Yeh CF have some ok people in there, and also Aaron we do have ally, when I joined I was informed that we are kool with [W], I'm not sure if thats still the go or not, But for CF I think it should be ok aslong as none of them lame e.g: nade, db etc.

[Maddolis]

Actually I've never fought [CF] and heard them not complain.
Ever. However, I have fought [BA], [SaW], [BB]... pretty much every clan and had a day of fights without complaints. It is rare with some clans, but nevertheless I have had those days.

I guess they just don't know who they're up against- if I were to start a new game, I'd ask around and find out who the top clans are, and if I lost to the top fighters I wouldn't bitch when I lose to them- even if there were 3 of me and 1 of them.

[Nater]

Actually I've never fought [CF] and heard them not complain.
Ever. However, I have fought [BA], [SaW], [BB]... pretty much every clan and had a day of fights without complaints. It is rare with some clans, but nevertheless I have had those days.

I guess they just don't know who they're up against- if I were to start a new game, I'd ask around and find out who the top clans are, and if I lost to the top fighters I wouldn't bitch when I lose to them- even if there were 3 of me and 1 of them.

Indeed, there are some great fighters out there, Tbh I wouldnt have a clue anymore which the best clan is, But if [uL] get HEAPS of members and some that ive seen are good, they possibley have a shot of claming it all depends really.

[Flyby]

Its not all about the talent and pawning that i would combine HC4L and CF as allies.They have the respect and you can't ask for to much respect.Unlike most of the "top" ranked players/clans thinking their the mighty shit,and can't show just a little respect towards new comers,your downgrading yourself really because you were new once and got a can of woop ass..Why would i recruit for allies from the people i dislike the most here?I wouldn't because most of you's are immature little pricks,unlike CF they've brought in some hardcore fights and didn't complain a bit.

It might seem like a shame but it comes down to who were cool with an like to chill with in game.So whats the big shame about being cool mates?

I just never pictured hc4l with CF, just something I figured wouldn't really happen but meh.

[Aaron]

Actually I've never fought [CF] and heard them not complain.
Ever. However, I have fought [BA], [SaW], [BB]... pretty much every clan and had a day of fights without complaints. It is rare with some clans, but nevertheless I have had those days.

I guess they just don't know who they're up against- if I were to start a new game, I'd ask around and find out who the top clans are, and if I lost to the top fighters I wouldn't bitch when I lose to them- even if there were 3 of me and 1 of them.

Indeed Maddolis,you are a great fighter as i have seen and been pawned by you when i first came to lvp.The thing you might not see is this,when myself is fighting a BA,SaW,or BB and win a good fight from one of their members,i get flames thrown in my face etc.Yet because i don't try my best in every fight to win,I'm still low ranked to them but when i come to the floor I'm all for pawning some peps

Its just that [W] is not on quite often so i wasn't sure.If they were to come back now that Bomber,Shoe etc. are gone hopefully they are still by the side of what HC4L is all about.

[Maddolis]

"Best" is pretty subjective.
I'd say best can be broken down into 4 categories- walkies, 2shot, 4shot, and all-round. NB are probably the best all-round (and also at walkies? I haven't been in the walkies scene for around 7-9 months at least), competition in 2shot is tough as it is in 4shot. [W] were, IMO, the best at 4shot for a while, but with about 1 active sa-mp member (as a IV clan) they aren't now. I honestly don't know who I'd call the best 4shot clan now.

Anyway, I do agree that allies should be chosen based on attitude and not fighting proficiency- however I'd agree 110% that allying with [CF] isn't "hardcore" in any sense of the word. Then again, the active HC4L members have more in common with [CF] than any other clan- so they can make whatever decisions they want. It is a shame, but it's their choice.

The thing you might not see is this,when myself is fighting a BA,SaW,or BB and win a good fight from one of their members,i get flames thrown in my face etc.

Yeah me too man, although they don't have the excuse of not knowing who I am. I've been flamed less often recently, but that's not the point- I wouldn't recommend allying with any of them (and I know they wouldn't accept an allegiance anyway).

[Nater]

"Best" is pretty subjective.
I'd say best can be broken down into 4 categories- walkies, 2shot, 4shot, and all-round. NB are probably the best all-round (and also at walkies? I haven't been in the walkies scene for around 7-9 months at least), competition in 2shot is tough as it is in 4shot. [W] were, IMO, the best at 4shot for a while, but with about 1 active sa-mp member (as a IV clan) they aren't now. I honestly don't know who I'd call the best 4shot clan now.

Anyway, I do agree that allies should be chosen based on attitude and not fighting proficiency- however I'd agree 110% that allying with [CF] isn't "hardcore" in any sense of the word. Then again, the active HC4L members have more in common with [CF] than any other clan- so they can make whatever decisions they want. It is a shame, but it's their choice.
Yeah me too man, although they don't have the excuse of not knowing who I am. I've been flamed less often recently, but that's not the point- I wouldn't recommend allying with any of them (and I know they wouldn't accept an allegiance anyway).

If I had the choice to ally with any clan on LVP it would have to be one that wasnt sore losers, lame people, and non flamers, but I cant really talk with the flamers bit myself because I have been known to flame and been banned temp for 3 days for it...., But an allied clan needs to be active and CF is quite active so its an ok decision.

[Strika]

"Best" is pretty subjective.
I'd say best can be broken down into 4 categories- walkies, 2shot, 4shot, and all-round. NB are probably the best all-round (and also at walkies? I haven't been in the walkies scene for around 7-9 months at least), competition in 2shot is tough as it is in 4shot. [W] were, IMO, the best at 4shot for a while, but with about 1 active sa-mp member (as a IV clan) they aren't now. I honestly don't know who I'd call the best 4shot clan now.

Anyway, I do agree that allies should be chosen based on attitude and not fighting proficiency- however I'd agree 110% that allying with [CF] isn't "hardcore" in any sense of the word. Then again, the active HC4L members have more in common with [CF] than any other clan- so they can make whatever decisions they want. It is a shame, but it's their choice.
Yeah me too man, although they don't have the excuse of not knowing who I am. I've been flamed less often recently, but that's not the point- I wouldn't recommend allying with any of them (and I know they wouldn't accept an allegiance anyway).

yall say NB because thats the only clan you all know to be the best, that was in 2006, now NB are not the best and its fact.

[Greyfox]

yall say NB because thats the only clan you all know to be the best, that was in 2006, now NB are not the best and its fact.

Who's the best now then

[Strika]

imo there isnt best, but the top clans that are there now is SAE, RSAH and HoT.