[Unbanned][PV]DNS (complain, management?)

[[PV]DNS]

Nickname: [PV]DNS
Date of the ban: 02.07.2008
Suspected Reason: nading the ship
Your IP address: 89.196.16.228

i throw like 3 nades on the ship and got banned. i didnt kill anyone. just hurt 1 guy.
there was no warning, no jail, no kick, no message. just a ban.

imho that ban is NOT correct. i know, its not allowed to shoot/nade the ship, but is it banable??? imho no!!! i didnt cheat, i didnt bug abuse, i didnt flame... just throw like 3 nades on the ship. if you think the ban is correct, please tell me the reasons. i cant understand that and i hope the admin who banned me think about it.

[Ben]

I believe this is easily worthy of a temp ban. Throwing nades on the ship is like stealing from the poor, like killing the innocent, like accusing crew members about their decisions.

...You just don't do it.

[chevy]

Im the one who banned you for Nading the ship .

well you knew the Rules already and you knew so well that NOT allowed to Shot or Fight on the Ship!! and how we Dont like it ! you gone to a higher Level the Nade and then i said he might mistaken it and again and 3rd and after th nades done u started using the M4 i said oh  1 shot but seems ur giving everyone on the Ship  few shots with M4 aswell , NOT appreciated , oh no jail or kick! seems people started gettin so used to love their Punishments as Jail 2 mins or 3 Mins or just a kick i lost only 2 Mil for spawns i have 380 Mil in ban who care! but sorry seems the Ban the only thing makes the Rules Breaker of High Level to quit it ! and to follow the Rules as every other player does , and about you never seen anyone got banned for ship nades , check the ban zone section very well and find SAFC's appeal banned by slein  for "SHIP NADING" he seemed quitted it now! and above of all your Behavior on the IRC wont help it , as you mentioned the Managment here because you WANT to complain  , ok let the Managment see the IRC logs too and ask TRaven for your Behavior on the IRC a while ago:


<%chevy> you should hate the punishgment that wat it ssupposed to happens
<[PV]DNS> just unban me and i will forgot it
<%chevy> no 3 days Ban , you must accept it
<[PV]DNS> you will deal with this shit
<%chevy> btw evade adn + day more
<[PV]DNS> i will. tomorrow.
<%chevy>
<[PV]DNS> chevy
<[PV]DNS> stfu


and the Most exciting part is :

<%chevy> btw evade adn + day more
<[PV]DNS> i will. tomorrow.

hmm what that supposed to mean ? did you just tryed to say I WILL Tomorrow as (I WILL Evade Tomorrow). ?

accept it again  3 days Ban , so you will know what it means to break the Rule in this way while No crew around you , and i believe YOU wont do it if Miek that time was on the ship because you ust Pretend that you walk the Rules!

[[PV]DNS]

first of all i have to say, that i still cant understand the ban. but i already said this.

if u cheat, you will get a life time ban. if u bug abuse for the first time u get a 3 days ban.
if u nade/shoot people on the ship u get a warning, jail for some minutes, a kick or a ban??? imho thats NOT fair. think about it!

i dont complain about you chevy, imho there have to be clear rules!!!

and btw. chevy, if you post a log, post the whole one. the "<[PV]DNS> i will. tomorrow." was related to the sentence of traven. he said, that i have to post here.

atm i dont accept the ban! maybe some guys can understand that.

[Ben]

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first of all i have to say, that i still cant understand the ban. but i already said this.

if u cheat, you will get a life time ban. if u bug abuse for the first time u get a 3 days ban.
if u nade/shoot people on the ship u get a warning, jail for some minutes, a kick or a ban??? imho thats NOT fair. think about it!

i dont complain about you chevy, imho there have to be clear rules!!!

and btw. chevy, if you post a log, post the whole one. the "<[PV]DNS> i will. tomorrow." was related to the sentence of traven. he said, that i have to post here.

atm i dont accept the ban! maybe some guys can understand that.

I don't think you understand that we are very strict when it comes to the ship. Agree or disagree with this all you damn well please but chevy says you have a temp ban and so you will have a temp ban. Either accept it or move on because moaning will get you no-where.

[[PV]DNS]

i'm not moaning. i'm complaining. there should be clear punishments for all. i already heard your argument ben.
do i should get banned for killing someone without weapon in your opinion? cause killing someone with no weapons is like stealing from the poor, like killing the innocent, like accusing crew members about their decisions? rly guy, i'm not trying to kiddin someone... just take me seriously -.-

[Ben]

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i'm not moaning. i'm complaining. there should be clear punishments for all. i already heard your argument ben.
do i should get banned for killing someone without weapon in your opinion? cause killing someone with no weapons is like stealing from the poor, like killing the innocent, like accusing crew members about their decisions? rly guy, i'm not trying to kiddin someone... just take me seriously -.-

Firstly, have you ever heard of a metaphor?, used quite commonly in the English language.

Ok, I admit I was a little harsh with my first post, however,

i'm not moaning. i'm complaining

I smell something..oh yeah thats it, Bullshit!. You were punished for doing something wrong, and now your arguing because you weren't told exactly what your punishment would be.

One of my first jail sentences was 1000 minutes for shooting an admin to death on the ship way back last January. I feel this occassion is quite similar.

[chevy]

+1 benb  

about the logs , you been talking on lvp.echo while 40+ players on chating and killing and withdrawing and transfering and Pming  and callin and teleporting you expect me to copy it all to here? btw its 2:32 AM here im not even supposed to stay here to answer every reply coz of my 1st reply it so clear 3 days it will still 3days wont go more or less! .

about the Clear rules! ok seems we want to talk about rules here , hey tell me if i jailed you ! what you will do nothing excpet @wtf i didnt do anything (THAT coz no crew was on the ship) after that if no answer u will again :

@wtf why im jailed i was standing by the ship and just jail unjail me now
let consider you stayed there 3-2 Mins and then ur gonna come out with who cares a 2  mins jail for  nading the Ship and M4 them how sweet this punishment i'll have a tea during a jail time! ,

lets assume a kick! hmm you got Kicked , and your gonna reconnect and come with :

@wht emo admin kicked me , what i did ? tell me now
chevy: well stop nading the ship and show respect
@stfu chevy and u will /taxi 0 and jump over the rail and nade me and u will just expect a kick .

while  my decition that i took tonight was a ban coz seems you Deslike it at all! and thats the Point of the Punishment! we DONT want you to like your Punishment because your not Supposed to like it

so  3 days have a break , take care have fun enjoy the Real life stay with family go out with friends come back then and post:

hi its the Unban day can you please Unban me

thank you ..

goodnight bud im off to bed

[[PV]DNS]

omg chevy. how retarded is that post? how u wanna know that i would act like u think? its just not fair that some shipnaders get jailed and some (only me and the other poor guy!?) get banned. its not fair, get it ffs!!!

no need for you to make an essay. clear arguments dont need many words. so here are mine: ITS NOT FAIR!

atm. i'm thinking about leaving samp. flaming, lag, admin abuse (i dont mean this harmless shit) and some other good reason. but you shouldnt care. (ALL ADMINS) just think about CLEAR rules for EVERYONE!

ban for shipnading noobs and just jail for shipnading regulars...???


aaand chevy, i got a nice question for you (honey). would you ban me if my name was turkey? i dont think so. so keep it fair guy!

[chevy]

first of all learn something called Manners in speeches

second of all , nothing to do with Rgular players or Noob players! me well i do ban every ship nader becauses it SO lame! , and slein agrees with this i believe in this! he does the same ! we are Different crew members we arent Twins to think same as the others! aaand(Sweetheart) if Turkey naded the ship that way sure he'll get Banned! because i believe in Rules applys on everyone even applys on Me!!!!!!!! if i cheated i'll sure get banned life time ban !if i naded the ship i will get banned and will get ready to be questioned by Managment members and Admins!
and no need to Threat us as in (ALL ADMINS) keep it in mind , you made a mistake you broke the rules infront of an Undercover Law's Eyes you have got a fair decition 3 days Ban!

btw Turkey is NOT  a Nub to come ingame and Nade the ship just like that and then comes on forums to complain saying i just naded 3 nades and got banned! what we shall wait for (Sweetheart)? the 101st Nade then i have to say plz sweety dont nade coz it may cause you ban ! enough you took good damage of the players in and my Screen full of spams people crying [PV]DNS nades the ship please do something! , not my thingy !
Keep it fair Guy ! thank you God to create me the way i am ,a nd thank you my parents to raise me up this way im pretty fair and equal .

and next time hope you SHOW some respect , as i respected you in all my replys hope you will show the same respect i gave to you !