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Old History (2006 - 2007 Old ) - James - 02-18-2009
This is pretty old, just I was reading Santino's introduction post and he didnt really explain things about the whole littlewhitey's flamefest the way they were, Take into account that this is extremely old, I think I was in SiN when I typed this, Its also MY OPINION of how things were then. I just posted it because you might find it interesting, not to shit stir.
REMEMBER ITS OLD, NOT RECENT AT ALL, TRY LIKE 1 1/2 YEARS OLD.
During my time playing sa-mp I personally have been a member of many gangs, NB, SMITH, SiN, KFC etc etc and I am going to write the story of how things got to how they are now from when I started to see things.
Well it all started off basically in SMITH this was probably the most controversial gangs Ive joined during my time playing sa-mp, they seemed like a very skilled and friendly gang to begin with and as I was only beginning to show signs of improvement I thought id join this gang and make a start to training myself and learning some new and very valuable skills. The gangs leaders were called Known2pwn and Toe2toe, also known as Aaron and Mike they were from Texas so they were a bit loud on teamspeak but that didnt discourage me. They were at the time to very good leaders and kept the clan going well but then it came to another clan The Warriors( [W] ).
The conflict between SMITH and The Warriors will always be remembered for the flaming, arguing, network technicianing, moaning & cheating unfortunately, but there were many experienced players in both gangs, The Warriors leader is a guy called Hooligan, me and him never really have got on much and that was really because of the history with SMITH. I do have a lot of respect for what he has done with his gang and what he has made them today his recruiting is very strict and he nearly always recruits talented players.
Moving on to the conflict, it all began way back when Aaron and Mike were just a two man gang, they really werent a gang they just used their last name as a tag which eventually leaded to people asking to join and whatnot so they made it a gang. When Aaron and Mike used to play on a server called Littlewhiteys they would always try to kill The Warriors because The Warriors then were very arrogant and their wasnt much competition from them in the earlier stages of sa-mp. The Warriors always played in groups at the time so Mike and Aaron did have a hard time killing them but they did the odd time. This eventually leaded to flaming and whos dick was bigger type of arguments so Mike and Aaron formed SMITH and had started to recruit some decent people first being a guy called Ranger, second Blaster and third myself, Dodger & Furious. So many nights we all spent sitting on the pc fighting and flaming with The Warriors the flaming never really got anywhere but that didnt stop us doing it.
One occasion that really stared things up sticks in my mind, Blaster was drive bying [W] and they kept shooting at his car it appeared to not take damage so this began the cheating accusations between SMITH and The Warriors and it didnt stop there. Then things started to quiet down for a while The Warriors werent as active on Littlewhiteys server for a couple of days and another clan started to form, this clan now known as SiN ( Strength In Numbers ) was previously called TX! this was a taxi clan they basically would offer people taxis for money and would drive people about San Andreas they at the time were a very weak clan as they werent formed to fight, just to taxi about places they became very easy targets and were killed a lot by myself and other SMITH members. They began to notice that they couldnt successfully continue their clan unless they knew how to fight so they formed XT! this was the fighting division of their clan.
Eventually The Warriors started to become active again and play Littlewhiteys, during their reappearing they began to become friends with TX! and they formed an alliance with TX! this however didnt last very long as it still wasnt helping TX! out very much they were still dying a lot, when I myself started to become friendly with [TX!]ZiGGY we began to talk about a possible alliance between SMITH and TX! We offered this to TX! For their benefit they later accepted. A very monumental moment I remember around this time was The Warriors asked TX! To pick them up and the members of TX! Replied by telling [W] to Fuck off I myself found this very funny but they later became friends again so im not staring anything just to emphasis that.
Now were coming to the dawn off the North Ammunation fights, these were definitely a big part of many conflicts between SMITH and [W] and some still call that ammunation Smith street or Warrior street whatever turns you on, we used to fight there and hold it very successfully against The Warriors but one thing with the Warriors was they never backed down and the fighting continued, during this NoV, another clan started to become involved with the conflict the two members that would actively fight with us were called [NoV]Hazed ( [NB]Blazed ) and [NoV]s90 ( [NB]90NIN3 ).
It got a bit more fun when they had joined in with us because it made a better atmosphere, one of the times I remember with NoV was the whole VV (Violent Virgins) scenario, thats was definitely one of the funniest and most memorable times Ill remember, myself Shoey, Blaster, HaZed, s90, Popz & Campo all wore [VV] tags VV was a piss take of [W] it wasnt very sporting like but it was funny for us, we all mocked their names for example f00ligan instead of Hooligan or Lovingyou instead of Liviu although I do have to say Hooligan got his own back with a video you can find from his signature on the sa-mp forums it is a classic ill admit that.
Anyway just shortly after that a clan member from SMITH passed away, it was a very sad time I have to say was devastating for SMITH, the clan didnt really last much longer after that because a certain member Toe2toe was caught cheating in an attempt to make The Warriors look like they were cheating but failed. I left shortly after that and this brings me to the beginning of 99 BlaZed.
This clan definitely made me what I am now there is no doubt about that, the problem with them I found was that they were to arrogant for their own good and I didnt really like the reputation it was giving us, although now the clan has became a lot more civil and has definitely gotten better.
It all started of with s90 leaving NoV, HaZed and s90 were good friends and had practically been in NoV as long as each other. HaZed later left NoV also and decided that they would rather make their own clan that join one. And 99 BlaZed was formed, they came to me about joining NB I had been thinking about leaving SMITH because their members werent really as active as I myself was and I didnt like that much, then toe2toe cheated and I decided id leave SMITH, so it was me, BlaZed and s99, they changed their names slightly as they wanted to start new.
We played in a server named Pen1, it was the only server of its kind and probably still would have been if Astro was in charge and I didnt make such a mess of it but thats another story in itself, anyhow we played there a lot because there was a good system it had different levels you could reach and earn things such as better spawn weapons, houses etc so it was quiet addictive we began recruiting from there many members we recruited are still with NB now like Ewan, Dr.Vibrator & BoSS. During the whole pen1 fad we had a rivalry with NoV we just didnt get along at the time was quite a bitter rivalry but they were all words no actions so the fighting was nothing worth talking about.
We later started to play Gtat and we literally owned it so much so that they eventually took running weapons out of the main fighting areas all together. Recruiting was on the rise and we did recruit many members some assholes some decent people. In the end kick came to shove and BlaZed was leaving to join the army I personally didnt like the atmosphere and reputation NB had at the time so I took my decision to leave. I will say this now NB are definitely one of the best clans in sa-mp their skill level is phenomenal and they have not lost a clan match which is quite a feat considering they have beaten clans like [W], [SiN], [UvH] and recently [NoV] so credit to them.
After NB, I found it very hard to find a clan that I liked as much as NB or SMITH, I joined CP & KFC after NB and became somewhat of a clan whore, but I simply put that down to not settling in any clan after leaving NB, anyway I am talking about the gangs and wars and whatnot so ill not sway off topic.
During my time switching and leaving clans I was able to watch a lot of events that took places during that time. Formation of NWO, Death of <P>, Reformation of SMITH and whatnot, so Ill give you brief descriptions of those events.
Well NWO, this was an allaince formed by (UvH)Uzi and [W]Hooligan included The Warriors, UvH, SiN & P. It went well for a while they used to fight and get along quite well and when they were together it was a lot harder to kill them as they were a lot better than the SMITH days, eventually D3str0y3r ended the alliance he wasnt happy with Hooligans attitude at the time and he didnt like the reputation his clan or NWO were getting. The death of <P> ( Prodigies ) wasnt really that exciting SidViciousII ( [W] member now ) was moving to England for a while to go to college and other members such as Silver_K ( also a [W] member now ) became inactive and so the clan went completely inactive therefore it died when Sid did get back online he tried to bring <P> back but it wasnt happening and he eventually joined The Warriors again.
The reformation of SMITH was probably ended before it began to be honest, Known2pwn became active again and decided to reform SMITH, I myself rejoined in the hope that they would have a changed attitude and wouldnt be a flaming or disruptive clan like past incidents but again The Warriors and SMITH network technicianing sessions returned, the cheating accusations were flying about a lot more than before and it began to annoy me a lot so I quit SMITH for the final and last time, they are still about at the moment but again as it ended the last time its practically a 1 man clan an unfortunate ending to what looked like a new beginning.
During that time SiN and MOB began to become fairly hostile towards each other, MOB is another clan that was formed around the time of TX! It was a fairly decent clan and their leader [MOB]Z*Money was and still claims to be completely against flaming or anything that really causes his clan grief which is a brilliant attitude to take. MOB are probably one of the biggest clans about that actually has a lot of active members its a sensible and respectable clan and has stayed like this for quite awhile so fair dues to them.
Both SiN and MOB have not really got on of lately which is a shame because they used to get on great, one recent incident which probably fuelled the fire even more was the one which 2 SiN members decided to join under false pretences just to know whether or not MOB were flaming about them or their clan in their own personal section of their own forum, I myself thoroughly criticised the two members which did it and they realise that they shouldnt have now unfortunately its a bit to late for that. Im currently a member of SiN and have been since the middle of April, Ive found that this clan is finally the one clan for me and thats itll probably be the clan Ill stay in until I decide to stop playing, it has improved a lot since Ive joined and thats because of certain members and the spirit of SiN the one person I must mention is [SiN]Ghost he definitely has improved the atmosphere in this clan and has been the cause of many players getting better including myself.
Many gangs have come and gone, not many have be able to keep its members happy or active, any clans Ive mentioned excluding SMITH, have managed to do that and deserve a lot of credit for doing so, if you do happen to read this and try to join one of the clans I wish you good luck, I personally want to thank, NB and The Warriors because if it wasnt for them I wouldnt be as good as I am now, thanks.
Ryankilla.
Re: Old History (2006 - 2007 Old ) - Colin_Mochrie - 02-18-2009
Nice story.
[SMITH]kabbe is still around, I seen him in LW's a few weeks ago.
Re: Old History (2006 - 2007 Old ) - Sneaky - 02-18-2009
Yeah I've read this before. Do you remember that huge ladder (tree w/e) from clans I think Blaster or someoene else from SMITH made? It included the whole sa-mp history of clans etc, I'd like to see it again
Re: Old History (2006 - 2007 Old ) - James - 02-18-2009
That died with the old SA-MP forum lol.
Re: Old History (2006 - 2007 Old ) - Sneaky - 02-18-2009
goddamnit
in which thread was that posted? i can look into web archive
Re: Old History (2006 - 2007 Old ) - James - 02-18-2009
Clan Discussion I think.
Re: Old History (2006 - 2007 Old ) - Sneaky - 02-18-2009
Yes clan discussion, I can't find it..
http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://forum.sa-mp.com
Only thing I know it's in clan disscussion, a seperate topic (not inside a clan's topic) and I think it was made by an SMITH member
Re: Old History (2006 - 2007 Old ) - [BB]ChiLLi - 02-18-2009
damm didnt u miss anything
Re: Old History (2006 - 2007 Old ) - [W]Maddolis - 02-18-2009
Nice post Ryankilla, is it the same one you did a year ago on the sa-mp.com forums?
I can still tell it's a history from your perspective, but you didn't really bias towards or against any clan which is commendable.
(02-18-2009, 12:54 PM)Ryankilla link Wrote: although I do have to say Hooligan got his own back with a video you can find from his signature on the sa-mp forums it is a classic ill admit that.Can be found on www.warriorsgang.com now, incase anyone's interested
(02-18-2009, 01:12 PM)Sneaky link Wrote: Yeah I've read this before. Do you remember that huge ladder (tree w/e) from clans I think Blaster or someoene else from SMITH made? It included the whole sa-mp history of clans etc, I'd like to see it again
(02-18-2009, 01:13 PM)Ryankilla link Wrote: That died with the old SA-MP forum lol.
I saved it to my computer.
If anybody wants it, just message me and I'll link you up- it is a very interesting flowchart, just a bitch to read because it's so damn big you gotta scroll all over the place. Probably worth printing it off.
Oh, but if you want it Sneaky, I'll have to charge you an [NB] tax
Re: Old History (2006 - 2007 Old ) - James - 02-18-2009
Im not a bias person, and yeah it is the one I did before.