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Re: [Serious Discussion] Religion - [SAE]Grim - 04-10-2011
Obvious trolls gonna troll
Re: [Serious Discussion] Religion - STyL4 - 04-10-2011
Quote:Grim link=topic=28190.msg382391#msg382391 date=1302442095]
Obvious trolls gonna troll
look page 7,6,5,4 and see who was "trolled".
anyways, once i wont be as busy as i am now, i will provide what i promosived. and if u ask for predictions, i give u prophecies aka predictions that happent. now drop the bullshit. more than a proof. Historical Events.
Re: [Serious Discussion] Religion - [SAE]Grim - 04-10-2011
(04-10-2011, 02:30 PM)STyL4 link Wrote: look page 7,6,5,4 and see who was "trolled".
Me I guess? By you? <.< ...
(04-10-2011, 02:24 PM)STyL4 link Wrote: there goes flaming again, victory of the debate. i rejected ur claims 5 times in a row(did u count?), what i gave was clearly explained briefs .or "PREDICTIONS" lmao. now get out of here, what ure stating here is yet again opinion, spamer.
Wait what? LMAO, did u even read what I said? Im telling you to put up shit in quoteboxes and ur going all "im better than u at debating" on me, what the hell lol. dauym
Re: [Serious Discussion] Religion - 0Target0 - 04-10-2011
(04-10-2011, 02:24 PM)STyL4 link Wrote: i give u PREDICTIONS, u wanted PREDICTIONS and here are historical PREDICTIONS that happent.
Those are not predictions. Look the proof has been provided by science, after (AS IN NOT PREDICTING) the proof has been provided, you look back in the bible and give an interpretation according to the scientific proof.
Predicting is, taking a verse from the bible, saying what will happen about waves technologies universe...etc not AFTER the proof has been provided and thats an important difference.
As in I can write a cryptic story now, in broad terms, read it in 50 years from now and then re-apply it to the world image that we have in 2061 and then say...see i was right.
(04-10-2011, 02:24 PM)STyL4 link Wrote: "I watched that video and it's a complete joke when it comes to proving God." - lmao McGlee, the famous Theist debater aproved that video as a solid proof, but he said he's still waiting for more details, now "SMARTASSES" like u and 0Target0 , will reject it? nice though, but u're way too "dumb" to reject it.
Cool, two wrong debating techniques in one answer:
1. Ad verecundiam: using the supposed authority of an external person or instance as an argument for the correctness of an assumption. The thing is that your 'person' is a theist and therefore very biased and not an authority in the subject. Thing is, that for both sides, this person needs to be an authority. Your problem is that he is seen only to YOU as an authority, thus your argument is invalid.
2. Ad hominem: personal attack to create doubt about the credibility of the argumenter, this is playing on the person and not on the argument.
And I perfectly rejected it.
The wave function of the universe is self collapsing. (hawking did not say that btw, he just discussed the idea 'the wave function of the universe' separately from the idea of a collapsing universe, it is just a theory, because everything in this world can be reduced to PHYSICAL waves, not probability wave functions which is completely different) Nevertheless, this theory is just an assumption; Please read Brian Greene's books
self collapsing wave functions are minds. Coolio, self collapsing wave functions are not physical, they just tell something about probability, so it's more like a descriptive mathematical tool, so claiming that a mathematical probability function is a mind...hmmm read orch or again please. A mind can be interpreted to where self collapsing wave functions apply, self collapsing wave functions as a property of the mind
Therefore the wave function of the universe is a mind.
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Technique, property of X is A, Property of Z is A, THUS Z=X;
In the same way you can say that, an apple is round and so is a ball, therefore an apple is a ball.
So there goes your theory.
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Re: [Serious Discussion] Religion - Maka - 04-10-2011
(04-10-2011, 02:24 PM)STyL4 link Wrote: 5ft wall of crap.
(04-09-2011, 09:45 PM)Maka link Wrote: Really now? Where are the facts that he is apparently all of that? You're again nowhere.
(04-10-2011, 08:38 AM)Maka link Wrote: Now, I believe I once again asked to provide facts to the subject.
(04-10-2011, 11:16 AM)Maka link Wrote: What the fuck do you not understand about the word 'proof', since you AGAIN for like the tenth time already FAILED to post PROOF?
How do you even think ANY of us are able to respond in any other way to you?
Do you have shit in your eyes? I asked for proof, not fucking predictions. And everything I said HAS in fact been proven by science.
I don't even understand how the hell you "claim victory" when you're obviously losing the discussion.
Have a problem with flaming? Maybe man the hell up? I don't even see where I flamed anyone, seeing I was only cursing, which does not equal flaming.
And by the way, you claim scientific evidence has no universally accepted definition? Haha give us a damn break. What is universally accepted then? Your theories that look like they got made-up by an average person with a vivid imagination? Are you stating then that for instance, the theory of the Earth circling around the sun incorrect is too? That's just ridiculous.
All your ass is able to do is turn words, because my previous posts clearly stated that I asked for proof, and not your useless predictions.
Target is fully correct too. Anyone who has his head pulled out of his ass knows that.
Re: [Serious Discussion] Religion - Nater - 04-10-2011
[me=Nater]claps[/me]
Well said Mr.Maka
Re: [Serious Discussion] Religion - Peru - 04-10-2011
I don't understand why you guys make things so complicated. The only way you will know God and Jesus are real is if you have seen the miracles he's done in your life. If you haven't, there is NO way you will believe in him and will always ask for "proof".
In short: if you believe in him, it's because you've seen what he is capable of. If you don't, it's because you haven't witnessed what he is capable of. And you will NOT receive any proof because we cannot provide them to you.
I go by faith, which is believing in him and his powers without doubting. Simple.
Re: [Serious Discussion] Religion - [SAE]Grim - 04-10-2011
Thats what im saying, but some people have to take it to the next level where having faith in God isnt enough, they also have to convince/prove the rest of the world that their beliefs are true. And thats when problems start.
Re: [Serious Discussion] Religion - STyL4 - 04-10-2011
Quote:Grim link=topic=28190.msg382408#msg382408 date=1302447753]
Thats what im saying, but some people have to take it to the next level where having faith in God isnt enough, they also have to convince/prove the rest of the world that their beliefs are true. And thats when problems start.
no we dont have to LOL.
keep on flaming, makes me feel stronger but anyways, 0Target0 no need to spam ur "idea" about the Theory, I will answer it in no time, no worries.
"I don't understand why you guys make things so complicated. The only way you will know God and Jesus are real is if you have seen the miracles he's done in your life. If you haven't, there is NO way you will believe in him and will always ask for "proof"." +1, and trust me, these noobs dont know what kind of stuff ive seen already.
(no, it wasnt some lucky grades or shizzles)"Your theories that look like they got made-up by an average person with a vivid imagination?" - actually his IQ is way bigger than urs, no wonder ure saying that. keep on saying ur opinions, ur anger and "i didnt read this shit" makes me feel like ure avoiding something. cyaaa!
*rage*"All your ass is able to do is turn words, because my previous posts clearly stated that I asked for proof, and not your useless predictions." - u(0target0 asked) didnt ask for predictions? caught on lie
(04-10-2011, 12:28 PM)0Target0 link Wrote: Please answer, Give me a verse and explain what it predicts in the future, I know you cant.
nice post full of words, thats everything u can do. And if u could wrap ur minds around God you would be God, think about that sentence then ask for proofs. dumbass. about predictions part, u have it, now deny it.
Re: [Serious Discussion] Religion - Peru - 04-10-2011
I also don't find it right to talk down to people that don't believe in God. Understand that discussing religion is an extremely complicated matter. A few words will never convince a person that God exists.