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Re: [Serious Discussion] Religion - 0Target0 - 04-06-2011
Stylo your fantasy faith is not holy to me thats why i cant be arsed anymore & also because your arguments are insanely retarded, they become undiscussable.
Re: [Serious Discussion] Religion - [SAE]Grim - 04-06-2011
Ah here we go with the "my religion is the only true religion and there is only one God, my God." This can be interesting
Re: [Serious Discussion] Religion - STyL4 - 04-06-2011
"Stylo your fantasy faith is not holy to me thats why i cant be arsed anymore & also because your arguments are insanely retarded, they become undiscussable." - good ol' excuse.
Twistedemon - and God is smart also since he created the universe u realise that? so instead of Love use some logic, because obviously ure more into denying other religions than really serve God? u can believe IN God and yet be rude to ur mankind or u can not believe in him but yet help ur mankind and do way more good work and also not deny the God. ure like making his own decision and obviously decision is YET to be made in Afterlife, and wishing someone or thinking about someone going to Hell is like wishing someone a death or even worse according to the Hell's suffering. therefore, u deserve to go to hell "too".
Re: [Serious Discussion] Religion - 0Target0 - 04-06-2011
You mean Allah is not god?
Re: [Serious Discussion] Religion - Tuism - 04-06-2011
(04-06-2011, 10:49 PM)STyL4 link Wrote: "Stylo your fantasy faith is not holy to me thats why i cant be arsed anymore & also because your arguments are insanely retarded, they become undiscussable." - good ol' excuse.
Twistedemon - and God is smart also since he created the universe u realise that? so instead of Love use some logic, because obviously ure more into denying other religions than really serve God? u can believe IN God and yet be rude to ur mankind or u can not believe in him but yet help ur mankind and do way more good work and also not deny the God. ure like making his own decision and obviously decision is YET to be made in Afterlife, and wishing someone or thinking about someone going to Hell is like wishing someone a death or even worse according to the Hell's suffering. therefore, u deserve to go to hell "too".
here's how it goes:
believe in God, do good and don't do sins as hard as you can = go to heaven
believe in God, don't do good and do sins = go to hell for a period until you have been punished for doing sins then go to heaven
don't believe in God and do good + don't believe in God and do bad = hell
because not all people can see badness and avoid it, some people think they're doing good while they're doing bad.
Quote:You mean Allah is not god?
Allah is an Arabic word means God.
Re: [Serious Discussion] Religion - Munch - 04-06-2011
(04-06-2011, 11:16 PM)TwistedDemon link Wrote: here's how it goes:
believe in God, do good and don't do sins as hard as you can = go to heaven
believe in God, don't do good and do sins = go to hell for a period until you have been punished for doing sins then go to heaven
don't believe in God and do good + don't believe in God and do bad = hell
because not all people can see badness and avoid it, some people think they're doing good while they're doing bad.
Allah is an Arabic word means God.
So by your argument, Saddam Hussein will eventually get into Heaven (after he serves his time in Hell), but Pope John Paul II will go to Hell for eternity simply for following the wrong faith?
Also, a Muslim once told me that Arabs will be denied access to Heaven, simply because they're Arabs. Is there any truth to that?
*I'm Protestant, and so I'm not loyal to the Pope or anything.
*I don't actually want to get into a debate, just wanted to ask that. I don't know enough about Islam to put in a good argument, and from what I know about it, I don't have a reason to argue against it.
Re: [Serious Discussion] Religion - Tuism - 04-06-2011
(04-06-2011, 11:29 PM)Munch link Wrote: So by your argument, Saddam Hussein will eventually get into Heaven (after he serves his time in Hell), but Pope John Paul II will go to Hell for eternity simply for following the wrong faith?
*I'm Protestant, and so I'm not loyal to the Pope or anything.
*I don't actually want to get into a debate, just wanted to ask that. I don't know enough about Islam to put in a good argument, and from what I know about it, I respect Islam enough to not want to argue against it.
Yes, since Saddam is a Muslim he will go to heaven after he's punished in hell if he had any sins, and we don't know, his time in hell might be millions of years, who knows.
and yes since Pope John Paul II is not a Muslim he will go to hell for eternity.
you know why? because God created us to worship him, the biggest sin is to worship someone else than God, since he was a Christian he believed that God had a son according to the bible, and Christians already admit that the bible is edited, then why they trust it?
I hope you understood my point.
Re: [Serious Discussion] Religion - Munch - 04-06-2011
(04-06-2011, 11:40 PM)TwistedDemon link Wrote: Yes, since Saddam is a Muslim he will go to heaven after he's punished in hell if he had any sins, and we don't know, his time in hell might be millions of years, who knows.
and yes since Pope John Paul II is not a Muslim he will go to hell for eternity.
you know why? because God created us to worship him, the biggest sin is to worship someone else than God, since he was a Christian he believed that God had a son according to the bible, and Christians already admit that the bible is edited, then why they trust it?
I hope you understood my point.
Well yeah, in terms of religion, blasphemy is considered the biggest sin. And in a God's eyes, going to another (false) God would be like a child disowning his/her parents.
But I don't see how someone can repent something such as genocide (Saddam) but they aren't able to admit that they were wrong in their beliefs and be forgiven. (Pope John Paul II).
(04-06-2011, 11:29 PM)Munch link Wrote: Also, a Muslim once told me that Arabs will be denied access to Heaven, simply because they're Arabs. Is there any truth to that?
Answer that, please?
Re: [Serious Discussion] Religion - Tuism - 04-07-2011
(04-06-2011, 11:46 PM)Munch link Wrote: Well yeah, in terms of religion, blasphemy is considered the biggest sin. And in a God's eyes, going to another (false) God would be like a child disowning his/her parents.
But I don't see how someone can repent something such as genocide (Saddam) but they aren't able to admit that they were wrong in their beliefs and be forgiven. (Pope John Paul II).
It's not like a child disowning his parents, it's much much much worse than that.
and about saddam, I already told you that he will be punished as much as his sins are, but not for eternity if he is a Muslim, also, heaven has levels, he might be at the lowest one.
Quote:Also, a Muslim once told me that Arabs will be denied access to Heaven, simply because they're Arabs. Is there any truth to that?
eh? the prophet Mohammad was an Arab him self.. -__-
the answer is no.
actually Prophet Mohammad said: O People! Your God is one; your father is one; no preference of an Arab neither over non-Arab nor of a non-Arab over an Arab or red over black or black over red except for the most righteous. Verily the most honored of you is the most righteous.
Re: [Serious Discussion] Religion - Munch - 04-07-2011
(04-07-2011, 12:20 AM)TwistedDemon link Wrote: eh? the prophet Mohammad was an Arab him self.. -__-
the answer is no.
That's what I thought when he said that. As I remember he said they'd be denied because "they aren't true Muslims". I thought it was nonsense.