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Re: [Serious Discussion] Religion - STyL4 - 06-16-2011
wow u've learned a new symbol, sorry to interrupt u but go prove miracles in Quaran by saying what posture in the bed is the best to sleep with. (why do u think i care about correct grammar on this topic?)
wow old symbol :
Re: [Serious Discussion] Religion - Maka - 06-16-2011
I'll put it this way...
Make up something and tell others it's the real thing. They will ask you to prove it. It's not like you're going to be the one telling them to disprove it when you cannot prove anything yourself. I believe my post made perfect sense (it's not a fact, seeing I only think so). Look at durrrrr's post too though. According to your response, I was denying something. However, when re-reading my post, there is nothing in there that I'm denying. I'm simply not in on the discussion anymore. I only attempted to get the ball rolling again because you guys have been talking about the same thing for like fifty pages already...
You stated in your post that the worst thing in here is to try to convince someone of the other's beliefs, but that is exactly what you guys are trying to do. There is no denying it, seeing the proof is in nearly every post on here.
Also, just noticed your latest post. Why exactly are you trying to make fun of TwistedDemon? He only stated what numerous others have stated before. His post wasn't even provocative to be fair... But I'll keep out of it. Nothing personal.
Re: [Serious Discussion] Religion - Daniel - 06-16-2011
just one thing, The meaning *Believe* is actually that you belief in it and don't have to proof or give a fuck about other people who need proof.
although i don't believe in god ^ has to be said
Re: [Serious Discussion] Religion - 0Target0 - 06-16-2011
(06-16-2011, 08:21 PM)STyL4 link Wrote: didn't say atheism is religion, if you could warp your minds around God you would be God.
"That's why he is the one to ask for proof and not the other way around"
doesnt make sense because otherwise the prove of God not existing would have been proven, but it wasn't so i can yet ask him for valid arguments. why am i saying this? because he didn't really get scientific and saying it's a fairytale without any valid facts and just state misinterpretation is no better, actually it is worse and it's childish and not really intelligent. i've got my own reasons to believe and youve got ur own reasons not to, everyone's living their own life and the worst thing about the debate is to convince someone and be sceptic that denies only at the same time
Please styl4, i know somewhere you have brains. Please use them. Think....hard...HARDER...ok. Keep it going. FOLLOW ME.
My quote:
THERE ARE THREE CROCODILES LIVING OUTSIDE THE UNIVERSE. THAT IS MY BELIEF AND THIS IS THE TRUTH.
The way this works is: I have to prove to you it does exist, it's my belief and my quote and i have good reasons to believe. (we both know this is impossible)
However, I ask you to disprove this quote. (we both know this is impossible)
CONCLUSION => Untill we see what is actually outside the universe, we cant prove or disprove these things. So maybe it is a fairytale...
There is an analogy to your story
(bear in mind that i dont really think that there are crocodiles outside the universe, it's just a story to help you)
Please think hard. I hope you see that; you, trying to prove god, is actually useless and impossible. My attitude is, don't believe in things that have never been proven. They tricked me with santa too.
Best of luck with your imaginary God styl4. Keep believing.
Can you tell me the reasons why you believe? Because maybe that way you can convince me.
Re: [Serious Discussion] Religion - STyL4 - 06-16-2011
IF YOU COULD WRAP YOUR MINDS AROUND GOD YOU WOULD BE GOD < THE ANALOGY i had mentioned before
what i'm saying is that yes there might be crocodiles (hehe xD) but there are no supporters on ur side (e.g. Religious people) , archaeologic founds, perhaps prophecies revealed (meaning historical events that did happen according to prophecies), historical persons supporting u that it is true and that the "story is old enough and is STILL alive (meaning it has BIG INFLUENCE on people still today, not only in the past), there has to be a stronger reason why it's still alive, not just a complete lie and
so conclusion : thats why it doesnt make it convincing or "valid" enough to be discussed about, that's why religion is very popular in debates these days, mystery behind it really makes it interesting..
with today's Science, technology it's impossible to prove God.. or to disprove him.. so you might be right or i might be right, we dont know today..
why i believe u ask? well it's personal really.. but i'm not one of those guys believing because of influence of family, my own decision
Re: [Serious Discussion] Religion - STyL4 - 06-16-2011
(06-16-2011, 08:45 PM)Maka link Wrote: I'll put it this way...
Make up something and tell others it's the real thing. They will ask you to prove it. It's not like you're going to be the one telling them to disprove it when you cannot prove anything yourself. I believe my post made perfect sense (it's not a fact, seeing I only think so). Look at durrrrr's post too though. According to your response, I was denying something. However, when re-reading my post, there is nothing in there that I'm denying. I'm simply not in on the discussion anymore. I only attempted to get the ball rolling again because you guys have been talking about the same thing for like fifty pages already...
You stated in your post that the worst thing in here is to try to convince someone of the other's beliefs, but that is exactly what you guys are trying to do. There is no denying it, seeing the proof is in nearly every post on here.
Also, just noticed your latest post. Why exactly are you trying to make fun of TwistedDemon? He only stated what numerous others have stated before. His post wasn't even provocative to be fair... But I'll keep out of it. Nothing personal.
sorry for double posts mods..
i'm pretty tired but i understood ur point Maka, i didn't read it all because i know what u had meant and i shouldn't reply rude that's true, but i hate the fact that TwistedDemon judges others with his Religion yet again he calls me a kid etc.. i'd say mind ur own bussines.. (not u Maka)
Re: [Serious Discussion] Religion - Silent_Bob - 06-16-2011
(06-16-2011, 09:48 PM)STyL4 link Wrote: IF YOU COULD WRAP YOUR MINDS AROUND GOD YOU WOULD BE GOD < THE ANALOGY i had mentioned before
what i'm saying is that yes there might be crocodiles (hehe xD) but there are no supporters on ur side (e.g. Religious people) , archaeologic founds, perhaps prophecies revealed (meaning historical events that did happen according to prophecies), historical persons supporting u that it is true and that the "story is old enough and is STILL alive (meaning it has BIG INFLUENCE on people still today, not only in the past), there has to be a stronger reason why it's still alive, not just a complete lie and
so conclusion : thats why it doesnt make it convincing or "valid" enough to be discussed about, that's why religion is very popular in debates these days, mystery behind it really makes it interesting..
with today's Science, technology it's impossible to prove God.. or to disprove him.. so you might be right or i might be right, we dont know today..
why i believe u ask? well it's personal really.. but i'm not one of those guys believing because of influence of family, my own decision
What archeological finds do you have to back up that God is real? And as far as I know, none of those "prophecies" ever actually came true, just people's interpretations of what they were did.
Re: [Serious Discussion] Religion - Tuism - 06-17-2011
(06-16-2011, 08:44 PM)STyL4 link Wrote: wow u've learned a new symbol, sorry to interrupt u but go prove miracles in Quaran by saying what posture in the bed is the best to sleep with. (why do u think i care about correct grammar on this topic?)
wow old symbol :
-__- believe me styla... if I wanted to convince you I would have done that loooong time a go (since ur already a "faithful" christian) the Quran (and Hadith) have got more miracles than your beible, the thing is that it's impossible to have a mature conversation with you without having the 'risk' of being trolled.
(you need to care more about grammar so people can understand you more easily kid "(^)")
Re: [Serious Discussion] Religion - Slice - 06-17-2011
TwistedDemon, you're as much a loser as style since you keep responding to him. >.<
Re: [Serious Discussion] Religion - Tuism - 06-17-2011
(06-17-2011, 01:31 PM)Slice link Wrote: TwistedDemon, you're as much a loser as style since you keep responding to him. >.<
haha I guess wer'e all losers then